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On February
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The truths concerning marriage and family are parallel to the truths of God's creation therefore, what are our SPIRITUAL FAULT LINES? Are we even aware of our Spiritual fault lines? We all have them. It has been suggested that: Marriage does not create "bad people." "YET"
Many of you have written to me saying there is much confusion concerning "THE" remarriage, "AFTER" a divorce. It is also noteworthy to say to you,
Universally, the stated reason for the confusion is: "Christian marriage -- within the Christian Church --
and lived by the 20th. and 21st. century Christian community
is entirely different than what our early Church history
teaches us and what we read --- in the Word of God."
Sadly, "many pastors
are
deeply buried...spiritual fault lines."
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DIVORCE and REMARRIAGE SIMPLIFIED Question:
Are you a Born Again Christian? You know that
and you're sure of that? [1] God's Word, 1 Peter 2:9, instructs us that Born Again Christians are a "Royal Priesthood": "But you are a chosen race, a Royal Priesthood, a dedicated nation, [God's] own purchased, special people, that you may set forth the wonderful deeds and display the virtues and perfections of Him Who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light". (Amplified Bible) [2] Our Priesthood as the Body of Jesus Christ is patterned after the Priesthood of God's Children, the Nation of Israel: Exodus 19:5-6, “Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be a special treasure to Me above all people; for all the earth is Mine. [6] And you shall be to Me a Kingdom of Priests and a holy nation.' These are the words which you shall speak to the children of Israel.” (NKJV) [3] The Old Testament was written for our, New Testament Believer's, knowledge, example and admonition, not to be discarded or ignored: Romans 15:4, "For whatever things were written
before were written for our learning, that we
through the patience and comfort of the Scriptures
might have hope".
(NKJV) [4] Because we are a "Royal Priesthood" & "Dedicated Nation" patterned after the Old Testament Nation of Israel "Kingdom of Priests" and "Holy Nation" -- doesn't it make sense that as such we should abide by the same rules for marriage by which the normal Daily Priests, not the High Priest, were regulated? Ezekiel 44:22, “Neither shall they take for their wives a widow or a woman separated or divorced from her husband; but they shall marry maidens [who are virgins] of the offspring of the house of Israel or a widow previously married to a priest.” (Amplified Bible) As a truly Born Again Christian, Jesus Christ of the New Testament clearly teaches us that we are Normal, Everyday -- Daily Priests: (When was the last time a Pastor taught you this truth? We should be reminded regularly if not weekly.) **The Normal Daily Priest was not to marry a separated or divorced woman; ---------- Compare with Romans 7:2-3 ---------- Romans 7:2-3, "For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. [3] So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man." **The Normal Daily Priest was only to marry virgins of the Nation of Israel; ---------- Compare with 2 Corinthians 6:14 ---------- 2 Corinthians 6:14, "Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?" **The Normal Daily Priest could marry the widow of a Priest. ---------- Compare with 1 Corinthians 7:39 ---------- 1 Corinthians 7:39, "A wife is bound by law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband dies, she is at liberty to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord." Dear Christian, what separates us from false religions, the cults and the unsaved is that by our personal faith that is based upon the written Word of God and the leadership of His Holy Spirit Who lives within us, we believe: 1- that Jesus Christ is God, John 1:1. 2- As God, He never changes, Malachi 3:6; Hebrews 13:8. 3-
Because He (God / Jesus Christ) never changes, it is
very safe to conclude that the same marriage parameters
that God / Jesus Christ established for the every
day, Daily Priests of the Nation of Israel are the
same marriage parameters for us, the Household of Jesus Christ, the Bride of
Christ and His dedicated nation. This
truth creates for us a "safe, sure and simple"
example and pattern to follow. It removes the
questions that modern day and fallen theology has
created. Only 13
Verses of Scripture and the questions and all
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I- With
the Lord's leading, I am attempting to: 1- The first section is, "obvious
reasons" that are causing confusion:
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reasons
"Christian" husbands and wives give for
their remarriages which, 2- The second section is, "subtle ERRORS" that are major reasons for confusion:
The doctrinal errors which, when compared
with the Word
of God, are clearly visible
spiritual fault lines. (spiritual earthquake) 3- The third section is the
"Word of God,
building on the Rock with no Spiritual |
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II-
FAMILY and CHURCH
DISCIPLINE (repairing and eliminating the spiritual Note: If you are divorced and remarried and your divorced spouse is still living, you hold "in your own hands" the keys to reconciliation with those who you love and who love you. III- The Born Again divorced Christian: The Born Again -- divorced Christian -- has a "God Ordained" ministry that only they can do with real empathy and enthusiasm. (2 Corinthians 1:2-4) IV- The - Born Again divorced and remarried couple:
Divorced and remarried couples have potential for a
tremendous "God Ordained ministry" that
only they will be able to do with genuine empathy
and enthusiasm A
personal note of warning FOR divorced and remarried
couples: PLEASE THOROUGHLY READ THIS SECTION --
don't simply look at this " section title"
and think, "Praise the Lord. I
knew we had a ministry!" Yes,
you certainly do have a potential
ministry but your -- potential
ministry -- will come at a very high, long
term personal price. The 21st. century Christian Church approach and ministry to the divorced and remarried is no different than our ministry to any other Christian in any other situation. VI- The
RESPONSIBILITIES of the Parents, Siblings,
Grandparents, Aunts, Uncles
**What
should Parents and Grandparents do when an
adult child or grandchild
**The author's
counsel from personal experience to (page link)
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VII- OTHER links that are of great
value, strengthening the foundations of our Financial:
Many marriages crack due to financial distress: Prophecy:
Our nation and Christian community needs a wake-up
call: VIII- We can
learn a great
deal from
floods, tornados and
hurricanes to strengthen **The United States Geological Survey
Department http://neic.usgs.gov/ Psalm 19:1-3; 29:1-11, "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament shows his handiwork. [2] Day unto day utters speech, and night unto night shows knowledge. [3] There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. [29:1] "The voice of the Lord is over the waters; The God of glory thunders; The Lord is over many waters. [4] The voice of the Lord is powerful; The voice of the Lord is full of majesty. [5] The voice of the Lord breaks the cedars, Yes, the Lord splinters the cedars of Lebanon. [6] He makes them also skip like a calf, Lebanon and Sirion like a young wild ox. [7] The voice of the Lord divides the flames of fire. [8] The voice of the Lord shakes the wilderness; The Lord shakes the Wilderness of Kadesh. [9] The voice of the Lord makes the deer give birth, And strips the forests bare; And in His temple everyone says, "Glory!" [10] The Lord sat enthroned at the Flood, And the Lord sits as King forever. [11] The Lord will give strength to His people; The Lord will bless His people with peace." |
"Roads to certain disaster" Isaiah 3:12b Over the years I have heard the following comments from Pastor after Pastor from Michigan to Florida; from Florida to Arizona; from Arizona to Washington State and Washington State to New York. The following quotes are not hearsay but are quotes from personal conversations I have had with Senior Pastors and Assistant Pastors. The following comments certainly reveal deeply buried... spiritual fault lines: **A number of years ago a Pastor in a neighboring city thought it would be very helpful if my wife and I became members of his ministry and gave him a helping hand. Before joining his ministry I gave him my "Philosophy of Ministry" manuscript that gives great detail about our convictions concerning divorce and divorce / remarriage. After several months of helping the ministry by teaching a singles and married couples class, one of the deacons called and asked to meet with me. He started the conversation by telling me that he was divorced and remarried and "he was very sure that my wife and I were not aware of his situation." He also wanted us to know that at the next annual business meeting, of the five men to be considered for the "Office of Deacon," three were divorced men whose divorced wives were still living and that two of those men would certainly be elected. The majority of the Deacon's Board would be divorced and remarried men whose divorced wives were still living. When I confronted
the
Pastor, this
is what I was told:
Over the past 30+ years, many Pastors have said "to me" ... the following: **"Brother, if I preached Romans 7:2-4, and 1 Corinthians 7:39, I wouldn't have a church left." My personal experience concerning this very issue: At the age of 37 years of age I was called and installed in my very first ministry. Mary and I had three sons in school, elementary, junior high and high school. I had no idea that over 90% of the membership and visitors were divorced and remarried with a divorced spouse yet living. I was Pastor for over 6-months when the Lord gave me a message concerning the sanctity and permanence of marriage and I didn't preach that message. For two weeks I did not preach that message and the Sunday morning of the third week, as I was in the kitchen getting ready to leave for church, our Lord stopped me with a very quiet, "Robert, when are you going to preach that message I gave you?" Instantly I knew what message it was and immediately and without any hesitation I TEARFULLY AND FEARFULLY said to Him, "Lord, if I preach that message 90% of the members and visitors will not return for the evening service. HE REMAINED, SILENT. Guess what folks? I was correct! After preaching that message those members and visitors that were divorced and remarried with a divorced spouse yet living never returned. It was then that I realized that our Lord had just taught me that it was His Church and not mine. After much prayer, communication and discussion with our Home Mission, several months later we closed that church (lower case "c"). Mary and I now had three sons in school, no income and we had a conviction that continues to this very day that God's work is provided by and through God' provision. We never asked anyone for financial help, not friends, not relatives, not our home church and not even our home missionary board -- yet -- the very next Monday following the preaching of that message -- our mail box began filling up with letters containing checks from folks we had never heard of or met in our lives. From that day to this we've never missed a single meal, paid all of our responsibilities in full and on time. Before all of the necessary closing paper work was even complete with the State, I was asked to fill the pulpit of a neighboring community's Independent Baptist Church. A few weeks later they voted to call me as Pastor and the Sunday that I was installed as their Pastor, I was actually the Pastor of two Churches. Our God doesn't fail His servants!! When our God calls -- He empowers! When He empowers He pays the bills!!! 37 years of age was a long time ago. Since that remarkable Sunday of my very first Pulpit ministry I've Pastored Churches, Interim Pastored Churches, Pulpit supplied, have been guest speaker, closed, reorganized and started Churches. I'm now 66 years old and our Lord is yet being faithful! **"When I graduated from Seminary I didn't agree with divorce and remarriage while a divorced spouse was still alive..."but" ...the Church that called me had those folks as members." **"When I graduated from Seminary I didn't agree with divorce and remarriage while a divorced spouse was still alive..."but" ...all of the other men in my area [conference, denomination, association etc.] are doing it." **"When I graduated from Seminary I didn't agree with divorce/remarriage while a divorced spouse was still alive..."but" the members of my congregation told me over and over again that Dr. Herb Vander Lugt, Radio Bible Class, Dr. Charles Swindoll and Dr. James Dobson, Focus on the Family all teach that God's mercy and grace covers this."
**Dr. James
Dobson While living in Lakewood, Colorado, I drove to Dr. Dobson's headquarters in Colorado Springs just to talk with or personally schedule an appointment to speak with him. I was unable to get past or through his "insulation bubble" of Administrators and Directors. His Administrators and directors were polite, knew his position, had my position document in hand concerning remarriage and refused me permission to meet with or make any future appointments. The reason for the previous letter and booklet was that his Director had written to me: "Dr. Dobson isn't a theologian, he's a psychologist. He has deferred his position concerning remarriage to Dr. Swindoll who is a theologian." When
I read his explanation over 20 years ago, my thought then and still remains the same today,
"what an incredible admission. Dr. Dobson's whole
radio, television, seminar, authored books
and booklet ministries are theologically founded and
known as a 'family ministry'". Folks, each and every one of us live with and experience God's Biblical "Law of the Harvest"...law. I love Dr. Dobson and Focus on the Family. It isn't my desire to "throw the baby out with the bath water" though -- I must confess to you -- I have lost confidence in his and their integrity. The lesson and reality is that he is now another example of what happens when we teach and allow ourselves to believe any inaccurate doctrine (heresy). God initiated His eternal "Law of the Harvest" (Read Genesis chapter 3) at the very beginning of creation and He warns us to: "Keep
your heart with all diligence, for out of it spring the issues of
life." (Proverbs 4:23) What is the law of the harvest? 1- We reap what we sow, i.e., we
plant corn and we reap corn; Because we reap what we plant at a much later time and date than when the sin was sown, we very often feel blindsided {Why did this happen to me?) by the results of our sins. Consider Ryan Dobson, Dr. Dobson and Focus on the Family and their present situation for our understanding: In the Spring of Dr. Dobson's ministry he asked for, accepted and followed Dr. Swindoll's counsel. For many years (the following seasons), Dr. Swindoll, Dr. Dobson and Focus on the Family have continued teaching the heresy that there are exceptions to God's marriage commands. Now it is the Fall years of Dr. Dobson's ministry and -- Ryan Dobson, his son, has followed his Dad's doctrine and not the Lord's and has remarried in total disobedience to the Word of God. Do we now understand the law of the harvest? Please consider rule #2, "we always reap more than we sow" i.e. they are now teaching to all who know them and sit under their ministries that divorce and remarriage is acceptable with God. Can anyone possibly know how many have in the past and will, in the future, divorce and remarry in violation of the Word of God due to his example? Questions: **Parents, do we really want to destroy a marriage and the
lives within our The New Testament Scriptures were written in Koiné Greek, which was the common, everyday, working people's -- Greek language. The Word of God isn't written so that only Doctors of Theology can understand it but is "God's text book" and "God's manual" for-and-to the common, everyday working person, you and me. Our easy-to-read Bible clearly teaches the Biblical permanence and sanctity / holiness of marriage. That this Doctor {who is a University graduate with a doctoral degree] is entrusting the very foundation of his total ministry to the thoughts and convictions of some other man and -- hasn't trusted his own personal Lord to correctly direct his personal convictions for his own ministry is a serious violation of 1 John 2:26-27, "These things I have written to you concerning those who try to deceive you. [27] But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him." If
you take nothing else away from this page, please take this: Second hand theology -- is -- like second hand gossip. The information -- is -- never the same at the end as it started and -- it is -- always distorted and damaged information. **Dr. Herb Vander Lugt Dr. Vander Lugt died December 2, 2006 The Daily Bread Tribute
October of 1999, I have in my files the lengthy email discussion with Dr. Herb Vander Lugt of the Radio Bible Class, who, at that time was a leading Christian radio and publications minister. He wrote to me (and I have his email on file) that he didn't disagree with the texts or verses that I provided or -- the conclusions that I presented to him. He continued with that he had difficulty... with a "hard and fast" interpretation of the Word of God ...because he felt that anything beyond praying for these folks and accepting divorce and remarriage as a fact of life in today's society was... in his opinion (verbatim and not my addition)..."too harsh". When I asked him if he was telling me that "God was too harsh" concerning (1) His will for the nation of Israel as recorded in Ezra 10:3 "Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law". And (2) His command to Noah and his family as recorded for us in Hebrews 11:7 "By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith," and again 1 Peter 3:20, "Who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine long suffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water," Dr. Vander Lugt would not give me an answer.
Later that same month, after I had completed the lengthy email discussion with Dr. Vander Lugt, I experienced one of my most frustrating situations in ministry. In answer to my request that the leadership of the Radio Bible Class ask Dr. Vander Lugt to reconsider his remarriage position, one of his directors who was a member of a very large fundamental church in Michigan sent me an email saying that the Senior Pastor of the church that he is a member of did not agree with remarriage when a divorced spouse was still living and he (the Senior Pastor) wouldn't perform weddings for the divorced folks in that situation -- "but," the Assistant Pastor saw nothing wrong with those marriages and -- did perform weddings for the divorced -- in their church sanctuary. He concluded with - "and, our church membership doesn't have any problem with this arrangement." (Please read Hebrews 13:17; 1 Corinthians 1:10; 1 Corinthians 14:33) Is it any wonder that the world scoffs at the Christian community and the Word of God? **A young, struggling Pastor said... "I'm just parroting what the others are saying." **An Associate Pastor of Christian Education of a large fundamental Baptist Church in Colorado made the following statement to my wife and me after asking me for a concise statement summing up divorce and remarriage: "Brother, wouldn't it be nice if we could base our "policies" on the Word of God rather than "convenience?" Incredibly, realizing and acknowledging this sin, he remained as the Associate Pastor of Christian Education. *A pastor from Wisconsin wrote, "Brother, I preached the Word of God concerning the permanence and sanctity of marriage. From the Word of God I explained to my members that the vows "until death do us part" spoken at their weddings when they were married can not be dissolved until death. I read and preached to them that the "one flesh relationship" created by God in marriage can not be dissolved until the death of a spouse. Later that week I was called before our denominational regional directors and told that if I didn't reconsider my position concerning this controversial subject ... they would consider the revocation of my "Ordination Certificate" as a Minister of the Word of God and my "Preacher's License". A foot note to this Pastor's dilemma: I praise the Lord that I can report to you that one week later the Lord provided him with a part time job, complete with a "living wage" and a paid "family benefits package" to encourage him and protect his income and his family needs regardless of what the church or his regional directors decided to do. Another man in the community noticed that his vehicle was in need of repairs, bought his broken down vehicle for a ridiculous amount of money with the words, "now you can afford a good car." PTL! This Brother wrote the following follow up: "We are growing one person at a time, and the first thing I hit is the marriage covenant. I want all new ones to know where we stand. It's funny, a babe in the Lord just says...yup, I see it; but that old crusty, tradition laden attender ... just does not want to hear it." Please note: The following reason: "I made the decision to preach and feed my family" is -- BY FAR --.the most used excuse that I have heard from pastors, violating the clear Word of God. QUESTION: Are any of the above reasons given to me by pastors, BIBLICAL REASONS? Is it possible that one of these ministers may have been your very own pastor or the minister who officiated at your wedding? Tell me, shouldn't all of the listed reasons given for violating their original convictions be considered as" very serious, deeply buried spiritual fault lines" on which you and others have built their earthly and eternal futures upon? PERSONAL NOTE: By posting the reasons that I have personally been given by my peers [Pastor / Shepherds] -- I am in no way trying to demean the man or his ministry. I am attempting to make you aware that imperfect men make less than desirable decisions for reasons that are far from godly and cause others to sin and fail in their personal lives, the lives of their families, friends, acquaintances and cause others to follow their examples and sin and fail, also. When you and I are personally kneeling before our Lord and Saviour we will never have the privilege of shifting our personal responsibility for any decisions to someone else. When asked by our Lord why we did -- or -- did not do, say or think something. Can you imagine Christ honoring the following answers?
Jesus,
Dr. James Dobson
told me _____________________ . The word of God already gives us the answer 2 Corinthians 5:10, "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad," teaches each of us that we and we alone will answer for our decisions, good and bad. Having said this, it must also be stated that there are some who, against all they know and believe will -- for personal gain alone -- do, say and promote ungodly positions and teachings in this life.
Acts
20:30
Mark 10:2-12 Matthew 19:10
This
is my personal Mailbox for Email. _______________________________________________________________________
1-B Over the years I have been told the following ... by men and women ... "humanoids" who are just like you and me. The statements below represent only a few of the countless throng of humanity, who remarried and now their conscience won't let them sleep at night and they are miserable when they think about their marriage during the day. The following comments reveal deeply buried and clearly visible... spiritual fault lines: **When I grew up I was taught that remarriage was a sin. When I got married I believed that my marriage was "until death do us part." That is what I was taught and that is what I believed. **My spouse was a drunk [or abusive; a lazy-good-for-nothing, etc.] so we got a divorce. My friends told me that I hadn't done anything wrong and I certainly didn't deserve to be single the rest of my life. I knew... my ... Pastor wouldn't remarry me... "so I found a preacher who would. **I'm a man and... I have needs you know. **I'm a woman and... I have needs you know. **I have kids to raise and it isn't fair that I should have to raise them all by myself no matter what anyone says. **I didn't want a divorce but he / she left me. I am not going to live alone. **My spouse was guilty of adultery so I got a divorce and remarried. **After my divorce I didn't know how I would survive. The Lord brought a wonderful Christian into my life and we got married. **After my divorce I met a wonderful person. I was sure that my Pastor wouldn't consider marrying us so, I was prepared to find a preacher who would. Before I did that I went to my own Pastor and asked if he would marry us. I was shocked when he told me that he had recently changed his mind concerning remarriage. He performed the wedding for us. These are only a few of the excuses that I have been given for why folks have remarried in violation of what they were taught and what they knew was true, all of which... create a great deal of confusion for themselves and others. If your conscience is kicking you around the block because you're guilty of doing one of the above just so you could get married while your divorced spouse is still living, you know exactly what you must do.
This
is my personal Mailbox for Email. _______________________________________________________________________ What is sin
James 4:17,
"Therefore to him that knows to do good,
and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
Commentary: Within the heart and soul of each and every "Truly Born Again" Christian not only resides an intuitive knowledge of right and wrong but more importantly, resides the Holy Spirit Who is the fullness of the Word of God. Any disobedience to either, our intuitive knowledge of right and wrong or to the Holy Spirit direction within is sin. All sin, especially willful sin, deserves and does receive punishment / discipline. What are the Results of sin?
James
1:15,
"Then
when lust hath conceived, it brings forth sin:
and sin, when it is finished, brings
LESSON
#1-
Unbeliever / unsaved, you know who you are FYI: As you read this we must certainly agree that there must be a real "Hell". Why, because we hear about Hell in conversations wherever we go especially if you go to bars, sporting events and alcoholic driven parties and events. Sin creates two obvious problems, first we look at ourselves in the mirror and or think about our lives and we ask, "What's wrong with me? Why am I doing these things and living this way? Answer, we're killing the good and respectable attributes that resides within us through sin. Second, we realize that we're out of control. My life is controlled by the very things that disgust me about myself. Yes, there is a real Hell and all unsaved sinners eventually die and reside there for all eternity. The wages of sin is that while I'm living this life I'm destroying everything that used to be good about me and around me. And, eventually I physically die and reside in Hell.
LESSON
#2-
The "Truly
Born Again" Christian FYI: When we sin, continue in any sin and refuse to repent [confess and stop the sin] our God no longer listens to our prayers. CHRISTIAN, think about this! What can happen in our lives and in the lives of those we love and or are personally responsible for, our children, wives, husbands, grandchildren, employees etc. if our prayers are not being answered? Unanswered prayers doesn't only result in our Spiritual death [and possibly even our physical death, also] but can actually result in the Spiritual and physical deaths of others. We hear too often about the abstract loss of eventual rewards in Heaven. What about the here and now and the hours, days, months and years that we are yet going to live? No answered prayers?! Meaning no positive directions from our lord in our lives. I.e., because of unrepentant sin am I actually doing and living where my lord wants me to live and work? Or, am I doing my own thing, totally without his divine protection and blessings? Truly, we would be a "spiritually dead man walking". All too often Christians equate financial well-being, career advancements, good health etc. as blessings for our Heavenly Father. What is the Solution for sin?
Acts
3:19, God's solution:
Romans 6:1, "What shall we say
then? Shall we continue in sin that grace
may abound?" This
is my personal Mailbox for Email. _______________________________________________________________________ SECOND SECTION "SOME VERY SUBTLE ERRORS CAUSING CONFUSION"
"Subtle
because they are being taught by some very
influential ministers
2 - A I suspect that the greatest amount of confusion is caused by Bible expositors and Christian ministry leaders, i.e. Dr. Swindoll and Dr. Dobson etc. who preach, teach and write, "If divorce is not covered by salvation then it is the only sin that is not covered by the shed blood of Jesus Christ." Both of these men know that divorce isn't the issue, it's the remarriage following that divorce while a divorced spouse is yet living that's at issue! Think about it, isn't Dr. Swindoll and Dr. Dobson actually teaching that "divorce and the following remarriage while the divorced spouse is yet living is the only sin that God doesn't require the sinner to "repent / stop / cease from committing"? Please don't get angry -- with me -- and close your heart and mind. Think about the following situations and compare them to the sin of remarriage adultery. Let's compare sin with sin. Before salvation: If I'm
a liar, I must repent and apologize and somehow
repair the damage caused by my lie, I asked you to think this through and compare sin with sin. How can Dr. Swindoll, Dr. Dobson and Dr. MacArthur admit "in writing" that a second marriage while a divorced spouse is yet living is adultery and still teach that these folk can remain in their adultery? Christian, does this make any sense to you?! Dr. Swindoll makes no attempt to support this position with the Word of God instead he wrote, "I believe God's grace covers this." The Word of God is clear concerning sin: Romans 6:1-2, "What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? [2] Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?" Acts 3:19,
"Repent therefore and be converted, that your
sins may be blotted out, Reader, be sure to know that God fully understands all of the underlining issues for the reasons given leading up to a divorce and a remarriage. Divorce is forgivable. I'll repeat, Divorce is forgivable! Divorce isn't the issue here, the issue is the following while a divorced spouse is yet living -- . When it is taught that "Salvation and the blood of Christ covers this sin" without the necessity for that person living in adultery to repent, stop and remove themselves from that sin, they are actually teaching: (1) salvation not only changes the person... they are ALSO TEACHING that
(2) salvation
corrects the adulterous situation that is
created by a remarriage when If they are correct then I will repeat, divorce and remarriage while a divorced spouse is yet living is the only sin that God doesn't require the sinner to "repent / stop / cease from committing the sin" because He has accepted Jesus Christ as His Saviour. Interesting, not correct just, interesting. Because they are teaching the above -- based on the many conversations that Mary and I have had with countless numbers of men and women -- THE FOLLOWING is happening over-and-over again: We were not saved -- Born Again -- at the time of my divorce and remarriage. We truly believed that when we accepted Jesus Christ as Saviour that made our 2nd. [3rd., 4th. etc] marriage ... ok. We were taught that Salvation corrected our sin. Dear reader, according to the Word of God, has Dr. Swindoll, Dr. Dobson, Dr. MacArthur and many others deceived you? And those of you who are reading this who were "Born Again" at the time of your divorce and following remarriage, you who said to yourself: "Yes, I know remarriage is a sin but all I have to do is confess it as a sin after I'm remarried and -- I will be forgiven." No, you have knowingly -- lied to and deceived yourself [Romans 1:18]. Because our Lord and Saviour doesn't enumerate [give complete lists] each and every time He mentions "a" sin or sins in the Word of God, for the sake of clarity, let's expand the Romans 7:2-3 sin of adultery to include other sins that each and every reader knows must be confessed and repented of: "For the married woman is bound by law to her husband while he is living; but if her husband dies, she is released from the law concerning the husband. [3] So then if, while her husband is living, she is joined to another man, she shall be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is not an adulteress, though she is joined to another man."
QUESTION: Can you think of any other situation in life that -- simply because you have now become a Christian -- Pastors, radio ministers and Evangelists will preach that the sinful activity that they are engaged in at the moment of their salvation is... no longer ...sinful? For example, the professional thief? If he accepts Christ as Saviour, is being a thief no longer a sin? How about the pedophiles? When these folks accept Jesus Christ as Saviour, their sexual molestation is no longer sinful? Maybe the serial rapist? How about the man who walks into the church service as a career Mafia... hit man? How about the businessman, or the pastor, or the secretary, the brick layer, the carpenter, the school teacher, the housewife, the door-to-door salesman, plumber etc. that is caught in an "adulterous relationship?" When these folks accept Jesus Christ as their Saviour are their adulterous activities no longer... adultery? They can continue in the activity of adultery? From the above reasoning alone, isn't there some "real cause" to wonder about the correctness of such a position? Over the past 30 to 40 years a number of very influential Pastors and Christian radio ministers have been quoting: 2 Corinthians 5:17, "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. Ephesians 2:1-7, "And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; [2] Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience: [3] Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. [4] But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, [5] Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) [6] And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: [7] That in the ages to come he might show the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus." Psalm 103:10-12, "He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities. [11] For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him. [12] As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us." That 2 Corinthians 5:17 teaches Christ and His salvation... is the power ...for the "truly," Born Again Christian" to overcome any and all sins and temptations isn't even up for debate or discussion!! That truth is eternal!! These men are correct when they teach that according to 2 Corinthians 5:17, and many many other Scriptures in the Word of God, when a person is a "truly," Born Again Christian he is a new creation in Christ Jesus. Every thing in his... inner man..., his heart and soul, become new as well as his relationship to God. As a "truly," Born Again Christian, he is a son of God. John 1:12, "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name." 1 John 3:2, "Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is." In fact, as a "truly" Born Again Christian, we are more than just sons of God, we are heirs of God and joint heirs with Jesus Christ Who is our Saviour, our Lord and our brother. Romans 8:17, "And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together." They are also correct when they teach that as a "truly," Born Again Christian," all of his sins are forgiven him. As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us." What isn't true and where these men are in serious error ... and ...what these men are overlooking is the reality and fact that the "life's circumstances" that these new "truly" Born Again Christians find themselves in at the moment and time of their salvation... do not and has not changed ...simply because of their conversion to Christ. One of the most prominent of today's radio ministers has written a booklet which includes Ephesians 2:1-7 as one of his primary arguments that salvation covers it all. Please notice what Ephesians 2:2-3 teaches, [2] Wherein in time past you walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience: [3] Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others." Notice the new power a "truly" Born Again Christian now enjoys because he goes from being powerless over sin and his friendships in "time past" to having a new power "over" and "in" his life's circumstances. He now has the courage to change his lifestyle and relationships. Satin no longer has the power of control over his life. He no longer remains a captive or prisoner "to" or "in" life's circumstances. The "truly" Born Again Christian is able to make the hard decisions and carry out those hard decisions throughout his life. The following are some examples:
*The thief on the
cross
Luke 23:39-43, "And one of the
malefactors which were hanged railed on
*Peter, powerless...
before his
conversion and the
indwelling of the
Holy Spirit
Luke 22:31-34,
**Now see Peter, full of power,... after his conversion and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit Acts 3:12-17, "So when Peter saw it, he responded to the people: "Men of Israel, why do you marvel at this? Or why look so intently at us, as though by our own power or godliness we had made this man walk? [13] The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our fathers, glorified His Servant Jesus, whom you delivered up and denied in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let Him go. [14] But you denied the Holy One and the Just, and asked for a murderer to be granted to you, [15] and killed the Prince of life, whom God raised from the dead, of which we are witnesses. [16] And His name, through faith in His name, has made this man strong, whom you see and know. Yes, the faith which comes through Him has given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all. [17] Yet now, brethren, I know that you did it in ignorance, as did also your rulers. [18] But those things which God foretold by the mouth of all His prophets, that the Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled. [19] Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord"
*All of the disciples,
powerless
before the
indwelling power of the
Holy Spirit
Matthew 26:56, **Peter, John and Luke, full of power, after the Holy Spirit took residence within (which happens immediately upon our salvation) Acts 5:25-29, "So one came and told them, saying, "Look, the men whom you put in prison are standing in the temple and teaching the people!" [26] Then the captain went with the officers and brought them without violence, for they feared the people, lest they should be stoned. [27] And when they had brought them, they set them before the council. And the high priest asked them, [28] saying, "Did we not strictly command you not to teach in this name? And look, you have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this Man's blood on us!" [29] But Peter and the other apostles answered and said: "We ought to obey God rather than men." *And, what about the person who is a murderer and is sitting in the courtroom listening to his defense lawyer defend all of his lies. Later, while he is in his holding cell outside of the courtroom, he is overwhelmed with the truth of his activities and cries out to Jesus Christ for salvation and... becomes a "truly," Born Again Christian. **Questions: Does this new, truly born Again Christian continue to sit in the court room and allow his defense attorney to continue defending all of those previous lies before the judge and witnesses in the following days and weeks? Or, at some time does he gather up his new courage in Christ Jesus, stand to his feet and announce to the judge and witnesses that he is a new, Born Again Christian and that the trial must now stop because he wishes to plead "guilty as charged" for murder and... face the penalty for his sin. Using the same reasoning, how about a rapist, a thief, a pedophile, a spouse abuser, a drunk, a drug addict, a forger etc. going through the judicial system? At some time do they gather up their new courage in Christ Jesus, stand to their feet and announce to the judge and witnesses that they are a new, Born Again Christian and that the trial must now stop because he wishes to plead "guilty as charged"? **Some more questions: How about the businessman, pastor, secretary, brick layer, carpenter, school teacher, house wife, door-to-door salesman, plumber etc. that is caught in the web of an "adulterous relationship?" What, by the way, constitutes an adulterous relationship? Is it the act of having sex with someone other than his or her spouse or, is it something else? When they become a "truly," new, Born Again Christian is their adultery simply going to swept under the bloody blanket of salvation so they can continue their adulterous sexual activities? Or, must they stop the activity of sexual adultery? God in His Word, not Pastor Kuiphoff, calls any remarriage...that follows a divorce to someone other than the divorced spouse...while the divorced spouse is still living - ADULTERY. And, God calls it adultery because it is the activity of having sex with someone other than the spouse of "the one flesh relationship that was established when you married and consummated your marriage with your first spouse." And, it is the activity of having sex with someone other than "the spouse of your original vows" while that spouse is still living. Just how is this activity of sexual adultery different from all other adulterous activities?
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OVERLOOKED ISSUE
In this particular situation, "Salvation is free, the Christian life is not" Romans 7: 1-4 is written to the churches of Rome, Italy. Because these folks were new converts to Christianity, some of them had married and divorced and remarried before their salvation. Remember, these were the very first Judaic Christian Churches that had been established. Recall Acts chapter two and 3,000 people that accepted Christ and joined the Church? Those conversions were the norm. Here in the Church at Rome were converts from Judaism who were very knowledgeable of the Old Testament Laws. Our Lord and Saviour is teaching them that to accept Jesus Christ as personal Lord and Saviour, Verse:4, they died to the Old Testament Laws. Those laws were no longer effective in their lives for salvation. Those laws were dead to them - for salvation. The lesson taught is: the law was dead... not divorced! They could not just divorce... the Old Testament Laws and then... marry Jesus Christ as Saviour. Because the truth concerning the Law was so very well known to the Jewish membership in the Churches of Rome, our Lord and Saviour used the Apostle Paul to remind them of the foundational, Old Testament truth concerning marriage which was..."you can not be married to another until the death of your spouse"...to teach the foundational truth concerning salvation which is... you can not accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour unless everything else that you trusted in for your salvation... is dead. Please read the following. Romans 7:1-4, "Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he lives? [2] For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he lives; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. [3] So then if, while her husband lives, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. [4] Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to Him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God." This
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"The
ERROR of
NOT COUNTING the COST ASPECT of Salvation is free. The Christian life is not free!! While Christ walked on this earth, He spoke to the multitudes, healed many of their sick, cast out demons, etc., introduced disciples to His ministry and answered many of the questions that the multitudes and His disciples asked. "BEFORE" Jesus Christ never kept the high cost of discipleship...a secret!! QUESTIONS: Before Christ went to the cross and before the Church was established, WHY did He say "But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven. [34] Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword."? [Matthew 10:33-34] And, what did He mean? AND, what did Jesus say the cost of discipleship could be to each of the following that wanted to be His Disciple? *Luke 21:14a &16, "Settle it therefore in your hearts... [16] And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolk, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death." Christ was asking, are you ready to have everyone you trust and love...hate, betray and kill...you? It's the high cost of discipleship! *Luke 14:26, "If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple." THE COST of COMMITMENT and discipleship: THE SWORD: This is the personal cost of loyalty. Christ said, "to be my disciple, you must obey me and follow me". Loyalty to Christ or loyalty to family? You cannot allow your father, your mother, your brothers, your sisters or even your own previous desires and goals to get in the way of obedience and discipleship. It's the high cost of discipleship!! NOT PEACE: Remember, these new disciples were converts from Judaism and heathenisms to Salvation by faith in Jesus Christ. Just as is still true in many Moslem communities and nations today, when someone accepts Christ as Saviour and Lord of their lives it means losing their entire family and human support system. In fact, your family and friends will either hold a funeral service... accounting you as dead or.............they will actually kill you. Christ said, count the cost. Christ still expects us to count the cost... even in America ...when we consider salvation. It's the high cost of discipleship!! There is no such thing as easy believism, and Low to no spiritual investment with expected high returns. Salvation is free but... the Christian life ...is not free by any stretch of the imagination. It's the high cost of discipleship!! *Luke 14:27, "And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple." THE COST of COMMITMENT: Throughout the Roman Empire, criminals bearing their cross through the heart of their cities to the place of their crucifixion symbolized that the sentence and punishment of death was correct. It was a public admission and confession. Christ used that symbol to tell those who were considering following Him as a Disciple that they were expected to publicly confess Christ and walk with Him - even to their own death. It's the high cost of discipleship!! There is no such thing as easy believism and painless repentance with low to no spiritual investment with expected high returns. *Luke 14:28-30, "For which of you, intending to build a tower, does not sit down first and count the cost, whether he has enough to finish it--[29] lest, after he has laid the foundation, and is not able to finish, all who see it begin to mock him, [30] saying, 'This man began to build and was not able to finish'." THE COST of COMMITMENT: Using the example of a builder, Christ emphasizes the necessity of counting the actual costs involved in the construction before breaking ground and pouring the foundations. The builder was expected to count the cost and be willing to pay the full price to complete the construction. Are you and I willing to pay the full price to be a Disciple? It's the high cost of discipleship!! There is no such thing as no to low investment spirituality with expected high returns. Salvation is free but... the Christian life ...is not free by any stretch of the imagination. *Luke 14:31-32, "Or what king, going to make war against another king, does not sit down first and consider whether he is able with ten thousand to meet him who comes against him with twenty thousand? [32] Or else, while the other is still a great way off, he sends a delegation and asks conditions of peace."
THE COST of
COMMITMENT: The Christian
disciple can only have peace in his inner being after he has been
willing to "give up...Vss:32"
personal ambitions. Total submission to the King of kings and
Lord of lords. It's the high cost of discipleship!!
*Isaiah
64:8, "But now, O Lord, thou
art our father; we are the clay,
*Luke 14:33,
"So likewise, whoever of you does not
forsake all that he has
The
songwriter, Adelaide A. Pollard, wrote: Have Thine own way, Lord!
Have Thine own way! THE COST of COMMITMENT: Joshua 24:15, "And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord." It's the high cost of discipleship!! *Luke 9:57-62, "And it came to pass, that, as they went in the way, a certain man said unto him, Lord, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest. Christ's warning: [58] And Jesus said unto him, "Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head". THE COST of COMMITMENT: Are we willing to give up creature comforts, for Christ? It's the high cost of discipleship!! *[59] "And he said unto another, "Follow me". But he said, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. Christ's warning: [60] Jesus said unto him, "Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God". THE COST of COMMITMENT: Are we willing to give up our family, for Christ? It's the high cost of discipleship!! *[61] "And another also said, Lord, I will follow thee; but let me first go bid them farewell, which are at home at my house. Christ's warning: [62] And Jesus said unto him, "No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God". THE COST of COMMITMENT: If after we have decided to be a Disciple and the discouragement, criticism, hatred and heartaches come into our lives like waves on the ocean, are we going to remain steadfast? It's the high cost of discipleship!! *Mark 10:7-12, "For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, [8] and the two shall become one flesh; so then they are no longer two, but one flesh. [9] Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate." [10] In the house His disciples also asked Him again about the same matter. Christ's warning: [11] So He said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. [12] And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery." THE COST of COMMITMENT: Mark wrote what He heard Jesus Christ say...while he was gathering and training disciples for His ministry. Isn't Christ saying, "Men, if any of you standing here divorce your wife and remarry it is an act of adultery and... you will be disqualified from being my disciple?" Isn't Christ saying, "Count the cost of discipleship and the Christian life?" What is the cost of discipleship going to be to anyone standing and listening to Christ? Those who are already divorced and remarried or...married to a divorced spouse? Read - Ezra chapter 10. The Christian Church is not without an Old Testament example. It's the high cost of repentance (turning away from) demanded of our discipleship!!
Christ's warning:
THE COST of COMMITMENT: Luke wrote what He heard Jesus Christ say...while he was gathering and training disciples for His ministry. Isn't he saying, "Men, if any of you standing here divorce your wife and remarry it is an act of adultery and... you will be disqualified from being my disciple?" Isn't Christ saying, "Count the cost of discipleship and the Christian life?" What is the cost of discipleship going to be to anyone standing and listening to Christ? Those who are already divorced and remarried or...married to a divorced spouse? Read - Ezra chapter 10. The Christian Church is not without an Old Testament example. It's the high cost of repentance (turning away from) demanded of our discipleship!!
Christ's warning:
THE COST of COMMITMENT:
Matthew
wrote what He heard Jesus Christ say...while he was gathering and
training disciples for His ministry. Isn't Christ saying,
"Men, if any of you standing here divorce your wife and remarry it
is an act of adultery and... you will be disqualified from being my
disciple?" Isn't He saying, "Count the cost of discipleship
and the Christian life?" What is the cost of discipleship
going to be to anyone standing and listening to Christ who is
already divorced and remarried or...married to a divorced spouse? QUESTIONS: If you were asked, are you presently paying the high cost for commitment, what would your answer be? And, what examples would you give demonstrating the high cost of your commitment? Reader, this isn't works salvation, this is SALVATION THAT WORKS. {For you that are studying the Salvation page and answering the questions, click hereto return to that page]
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"The
ERROR of
NOT COUNTING the
COST" Salvation is free. The Christian life is not free!! "AFTER" It was decision Sunday in Rome! In counting the cost of discipleship after the Church was established, what did Jesus Christ say to the Church members who, by virtue of their membership in the Churches in Rome and Corinth, said they were His Disciple? Remember, membership in the church was based on confession of sin, repentance from sin, public confession of their personal faith in Jesus Christ for salvation and then, public baptism by immersion in the local river, mud hole etc. One Sunday the following took place in the Church at Rome: As the Church members in Rome, Italy gathered to hear what their Pastor was going to read, they heard him read the following. Try to put yourself in their situation by imagining going to your own church for worship and...when your Pastor stood to preach he said, "Members. I received the following letter from the Apostle Paul and he asked that I read it to you. I'll begin reading at Romans chapter 7, verse:1 and read through verse:4. "Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he lives? [2] For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he lives; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. [3] So then if, while her husband lives, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. [4] Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God." You, like they, are a member of your church by confessing Jesus Christ as your Saviour, which was followed by believer's baptism and church membership: **Did being a confessed believer in Christ and a baptized member of the Church at Rome change what God said, through the Apostle Paul, that all people who are divorced and remarried while their divorced spouse was living is... adultery? Did being a confessed believer in Christ and a baptized member of the Church alter that fact? **Did being a confessed believer in Christ and a baptized member of the Church and confessing before God and the Church that you agree with God that divorce and remarriage... while the divorced spouse is still living is adultery...will that confession and agreement alter the fact that the divorced spouse is still living?" **Did being a confessed believer in Christ and a baptized member of the Church and confessing before God and the Church that you agree with God that divorce and remarriage... while the divorced spouse is still living is adultery...will that confession and agreement alter the fact that the marriage is still an adulterous marriage?" **Even though they were a confessed believer in Christ and a baptized member of the Church, if the divorced spouse is still living after confessing before God and the Church that you agree with God that a divorced person is not to remarry while their divorced spouse is still... living ...what does the Word of God call that marriage? The correct answer is Romans 7:3, " So then if, while her husband lives, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress." It was decision Sunday in the Church at Rome and the altar call to them and to us is:
**Are Christians supposed
to remain in adultery? Read
Romans chapter 6.
Contextually, it would appear that God was preparing those Church
members at Rome for some very hard decision making because
chapter 6 is before
chapter 7. Students, because
chapter 6...
is before ...chapter 7 by overlooking this
simple little fact, many Christians, Pastors and Christian
leaders have made huge
ERRORS in their theology
and in their lives. Notice that
Chapter 6 begins
with
verses:1-2, "What shall we
say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may
abound? [2] God forbid.
How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?" At the top of this page are the reasons given by people just like you and me for their remarriages...against the counsel of their parents, friends, Pastors and the Word of God. I'm not being harsh or judgmental when I say to you that these reasons are examples of people "who hold the truth in unrighteousness" and are "disobedient to parents, etc." and "who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them." You know that what I have said on this page is the truth because I've copied the Word of God within the text and context.. The choice is the same for this sin as any other sin and the local Church responsibility is the same concerning this sin as any other sin. As a father, Pastor, Christian and friend it is my responsibility to tell people to stop their sin, what ever that sin is. The responsibility is theirs and theirs alone to obey or disobey. If they make the wrong choice, as a father, Pastor, Christian and friend it is my stewardship ...in obedience to Christ... to take what ever steps are necessary to discipline that brother or sister in Christ and / or distance myself from that brother or sister in the Lord 1 Corinthians 5:11, " But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat." My obedience is mine and mine alone. My obedience is not dependent upon an executive committee, a family council, an Elders and Deacons meeting, the decision of a denomination or association of Pastors. You and I will stand... all alone ...before our Lord and Saviour when we give our personal account. Our obedience and stewardship is not, I repeat... is not ...a popularity contest! **Are adulterous people supposed to remain in the Church membership? Read 1 Corinthians 5:6-13. **Does the New Testament Church have an Old Testament example for a solution? Yes!! Read Ezra chapter 10, all of it. Please Note: Ezra is Old Testament and is the harshness of the law. Under grace, God extends some mercy to us that was not always extended to the Old Testament saints. Remaining in an adulterous marriage is not a part of the New Testament grace -- package. It's the high cost of repentance (turning away from sin) that is demanded by discipleship!! Ministry, strength, courage, life's provisions and Christian creativity is... a part of our New Testament grace package! Read 2 Corinthians 2:2-4; Philippians 4:13 & 19
Church member. You and I heard what the Apostle Paul wrote. What is our decision? This
is my personal Mailbox for Email. _____________________________________________________ One Sunday in the Church in Corinth, Greece...it was decision Sunday! As the Church members in Corinth, gathered to hear what their Pastor was going to read, they heard him read the following. Try to put yourself in their situation by imagining going to your own church for worship and...when your Pastor stood to preach he said, "members and friends of our Church family, I received the following letter from the Apostle Paul and he asked that I read it to you. The Apostle Paul wrote the following: "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, [10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." (1 Corinthians 6: 9, 10) The Apostle Paul also wrote the following: "The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord." (1 Corinthians 7:39) Could their Pastor's personal message to his congregation and visitors have been similar to the following? Dear members and friends. I confess to you that Paul's strong warning to each one of us, "be not deceived," really caught my attention! Before coming here today, I read this letter from Paul in my home to my wife and family and I couldn't help but wonder, "Is it possible that when I deliver this letter to our Church family and friends on Sunday that there could be someone in the hearing of these words that,
*because they made a public confession for
Christ as Saviour on our Church some listeners could be deceived concerning their true salvation and relationship in Jesus Christ? Did they really count the cost of the Christian life before joining our church? Are they going to demonstrate that they are truly a Born Again Christian by being willing to pay the price expected by our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, concerning their Christian life and discipleship walk of obedience concerning this sin of adultery? It is no different now, in the 21 century, than it was when the texts above were penned by the apostle Paul. When our Lord calls attention to sin in our lives, any and all sin, He expects us to obey by confessing and forsaking that known sin by turning away from and stopping the sin? To know for sure that we are a truly Born Again Christian, we must be willing to call upon the Lord and trust in His strength to overcome and obey even the most difficult expectations of the Lord? If we're not willing, are we truly Born Again? If we're not willing to obey in obedience to the difficult situations, how could we possibly believe that we're willing to die... for our faith in Christ?" Reader, this isn't works salvation, this is salvation that works.
The Apostle Paul wrote to us under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit that no adulterer would ever inherit the Kingdom of God. He also wrote that no divorced person could marry again as long as his or her divorced spouse is still living. To disobey this "SIMPLE" command (it is only a difficult command if you have disobeyed it) is to:
*disobey the Creator God
and determiner of our eternity and, The church members and friends in Corinth that heard that message were required then to answer the same questions that we must answer today! Pastors and readers: **Will being a confessed believer in Christ as Saviour and a baptized member of any Church, Fundamental, Liberal or any other kind...even though they stand before God and the Church confessing that their marriage is adultery --- alter the fact that their divorced spouse is ... still living? The divorced spouse is still alive, correct? **Does being a confessed believer in Christ as Saviour and a baptized member of any Church, Fundamental, Liberal or any other kind...alter the fact that the Word of God calls all such marriages --- adultery? Because the divorced spouse is still alive, correct? **Will being a confessed believer in Christ as Saviour and a baptized member of any Church, Fundamental, Liberal or any other kind...even though they stand before God and the Church confessing and agreeing with the Word of God that their marriage is adultery --- alter the fact that DIVORCE is not death? And, that only death dissolves the "one flesh" relationship and --- only death satisfies the "until death do we part" irrevocable marriage vows? This doesn't alter the fact that the divorced spouse is still alive, correct? And, the irrevocable vows were said, correct? **If the divorced spouse is still living after confessing before God and the Church that you agree with God that a divorced person is not to remarry while their divorced spouse is still ... living ... and God's Word declares those marriages to be adultery and you are in that situation, isn't your marriage an adulterous marriage? And the Word of God clearly says that "no adulterer will ever inherit the kingdom of God," correct? *Because some preacher, pastor or friend goes against the clear Word of God and tells you that your marriage "is the exception" to God's rule, do you --- really --- believe that God doesn't mean that "you - will not inherit the kingdom of God" ? Do you really believe that some preacher, pastor or friend knows more than God knows? And that the warning is for everyone else but you, correct? *Are you willing to risk your personal eternity on the word of some preacher, pastor or friend when the Word of God is so --- very, clear?! It was decision Sunday in that Church in Corinth and the altar call for them and for you and me - is: **Are Christians supposed to disobey the Word of God by getting married to another spouse while their divorced spouse is still living? **Isn't that disobedient marriage, adultery?
**Are Christians supposed
to remain in adultery? Read
Romans chapter 6.
Contextually, it would appear that God was preparing those Church
members at Rome for some very hard decision making because At the top of this page are the reasons given by people just like you and me for their remarriages...against the counsel of their parents, friends, Pastors and the Word of God. I'm not being harsh or judgmental when I say to you that these reasons are examples of people "who hold the truth in unrighteousness" and are "disobedient to parents, etc." and "who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them." You know that what I have said on this page is the truth because I've copied the Word of God within the text and context.. The choice is the same for this sin as any other sin and the local Church responsibility is the same concerning this sin as any other sin. As a father, Pastor, Christian and friend it is my responsibility to tell people to stop their sin, what ever that sin is. The responsibility is theirs and theirs alone to obey or disobey. If they make the wrong choice, as a father, Pastor, Christian and friend it is my stewardship ...in obedience to Christ... to take what ever steps are necessary to discipline that brother or sister in Christ and / or distance myself from that brother or sister in the Lord 1 Corinthians 5:11, " But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat." My obedience is mine and mine alone. My obedience is not dependent upon an executive committee, a family council, an Elders and Deacons meeting, the decision of a denomination or association of Pastors. You and I will stand... all alone ...before our Lord and Saviour when we give our personal account.
Our obedience and
stewardship is not
POPULARITY CONTEST
**Are adulterous people
supposed to remain in the Church membership? **Does the New Testament Church have an Old Testament example for a solution? Yes!! Read Ezra chapter 10, all of it. Please Note: Ezra is Old Testament and is the harshness of the law. Under grace, God extends some mercy to us that was not always extended to the Old Testament saints. Remaining in an adulterous marriage is not a part of the New Testament grace ... package. It's the high cost of repentance (turning away from) demanded of our discipleship!! Ministry, strength, courage, life's provisions and Christian creativity - "is" - a part of our New Testament grace package! Read 2 Corinthians 2:2-4; Philippians 4:13 & 19.
Church member. You and I
heard what the Apostle Paul wrote. What is our decision? _____________________________________________________
QUESTION:
There is no such thing as easy believism, It's the high cost of our discipleship!! What is our decision? This
is my personal Mailbox for Email.
_____________________________________________________ "Subtle ERRORS causing confusion ... Continued"
2 - B Some are teaching that remarriage while the divorced spouse is still living is justified because of an "UNREPENTANT and ADULTEROUS SPOUSE": Over the past 30 to 40 years some very influential Pastors and Christian radio ministers have been quoting,
Matthew 19:9,
" And I say unto you,
Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for
fornication, and
shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso
marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery." [KJV] Please notice that the above King James Version and the New King James Version say virtually the same thing. Now notice the texts that those who support remarriage, use. Matthew 19:9, "And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery," [and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery ... is missing in this version] [NASV] Matthew 19:9, "I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery." [Again, and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery ... is missing in this version] [NIV] Please explain what happened to "and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery" in the New American Standard Version of the Word of God? Question: Why do these folks use translations without making any references to the the textual notes for the variant translations that are found in those translations?
Now, compare Matthew 19:9 with all of the following verses. I am going to say something that really isn't very profound but, yet -- it is very profound. Matthew 5:32 is written before Matthew 19:9 isn't it? Matthew chapters 5 through chapter 8 is Christ's "Sermon on the Mount." Jesus is publicly teaching the multitudes and explaining the "life style" and "cost of discipleship." Why does Matthew 19:9 say something completely different than Matthew 5:32? AND -- Why does today's Church use only Matthew 19:9? Did Jesus make a mistake earlier when He gave His "Sermon on the Mount" as recorded in Matthew 5:32? And, because He made such a verbal blunder He decided to correct His warning to all mankind in Matthew chapter 9 and verse: 19? This isn't an unfair question, is it? And -- if it supposed that He did make a verbal blunder, why didn't He correct all of the following verses? Isn't it a logical and very Important Question to ask that if Matthew 19:9 is correct...why does this single verse disagree with all of the verses that are recorded in the New Testament that (1) directly quote Jesus Christ while teaching the doctrine of marriage and (2)...disagree with all of the verses He taught through the Apostle Paul? Read them for yourself. I've printed everyone one of them below.
Matthew 5:32, This we do know, Jesus said if a man divorced his wife for any reason other than adultery (i.e. she burned his coffee), he is causing his wife to commit adultery. AND even though she was not guilty of the sin of adultery (i.e. she burned his coffee) when her husband divorced her, she will be an adulterer when she remarries.
Mark 10:11-12,
Luke 16:18,
Romans 7:2-3,
1 Corinthians
7:39, One of the very first principles of hermeneutics [which is the study of how to interpret the Scriptures] that I was taught in Christian College and Seminary is the rule of "context, context and context" or, "the verse within the text, which is found within the context, which is found within the greater text, the whole of the Word of God." This universal principle simply means: First, never interpret the meaning of a singular cloudy and obscure verse, so that it disagrees with the meaning of the total text, which is the complete Bible. Second, never interpret a single verse of Scripture [alone] without considering the immediate text, which are the verses and chapter where that verse is contained. And third, never interpret a chapter without considering the meaning and flow of the chapters before and after, in which that chapter is written. Using accepted, sound rules of hermeneutics as the standard, Matthew 19:9 differs from all other verses and can not possibly be considered as the standard by which to judge all other verses in the Word of God so as to determine a doctrine. Any man who has studied at any Fundamental Christian College or Seminary knows it is a violation of the rules of interpretation and just plain common sense to use a single cloudy or obscure verse of Scripture as the standard by which to interpret the many clear and transparent verses of Scripture. It's this violation of common sense that creates erroneous doctrinal and polity errors which destroys lives, families and ministries and encourages the cults to thrive. As well, Matthew 19:9 follows Matthew 19:8 -- doesn't it? Matthew 19:8, "He said unto them, Moses -- allowed you to put away your wives -- because of the hardness of your hearts: but from the beginning it was not so." I don't want to take anything away from Moses but -- I certainly am not going to allow Moses to become God, either! Remember Moses who, in a fit of rage, killed the Egyptian and fled to the desert for 40 years, Exodus chapter 2? And Moses, the leader who -- in anger -- broke the stone tablets that our Creator God had written on, Exodus chapter 32? Do you also recall that Mosses the leader wasn't allowed to enter into the promised land because of his sinful temper, Numbers chapter 20? Jesus Christ made it very clear in Matthew 19:8 that Moses -- and -- Moses alone .............. allowed divorce. And that Moses didn't have God's .............. permission! Moses made the decision and allowed divorce without portfolio (without consultation and permission)!! From a very human and practical point of questioning, why is today's Church so very willing to follow the sinful example set by Moses? It is very evident from all of the verses found in the New Testament that Matthew 19:9 is a one-and-only cloudy verse and it stands all alone. Why will Bible scholars who normally will not even consider using a verse with a cloudy and obscure meaning suddenly...violate that principle of sound interpretation and hermeneutics...and build a totally erroneous doctrine. Risking being accused of being redundant I really am compelled to ask once again:
1-
Why do these folks use
translations without making any references to the the
textual notes
2-
Why will Bible scholars who
normally will not even consider using a verse with a cloudy
and Are our Pastors and Christian leaders doing this for one of the following, deeply buried, spiritual fault lines? **A number of years ago a Pastor in a neighboring city thought it would be very helpful if my wife and I became members of his ministry and gave him a helping hand. Before joining his ministry I gave him my "Philosophy of Ministry" manuscript that gives great detail about our convictions concerning divorce and divorce / remarriage. After several months of helping the ministry by teaching a singles and married couples class, one of the deacons called and asked to meet with me at a restaurant that was convenient to both of us so we could talk. He started the conversation by telling me that he was divorced and remarried and "he was very sure that my wife and I were not aware of his situation." He also wanted us to know that at the next annual business meeting, of the five men to be considered for the "Office of Deacon," three were divorced men whose divorced wives were still living and that two of those men would certainly be elected. The majority of the Deacon's Board would... then be ...divorced and remarried men whose divorced wives were still living. When I confronted their
Pastor, this
is what I was told: Over the past 35 years, many Pastors have said "to me" ... the following: **"Brother, if I preached Romans 7:2-4, "For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. [3] So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man. [4] Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another--to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God." And 1 Corinthians 7:39, "A wife is bound by law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband dies, she is at liberty to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord," as a hard and fast interpretation, I wouldn't have a church left." **"When I graduated from Seminary I didn't agree with divorce and remarriage while a divorced spouse was still alive..."but" the Church that called me had those folks as members." **"When I graduated from Seminary I didn't agree with divorce and remarriage while a divorced spouse was still alive..."but" all of the other men in my area [conference, denomination, association etc.] are doing it." **"When I graduated from Seminary I didn't agree with divorce/remarriage while a divorced spouse was still alive..."but" the members of my congregation told me over and over again that Dr. Herb Vanderlugt, Radio Bible Class, Dr. Charles Swindoll and Dr. James Dobson, Focus on the Family all teach that God's mercy and grace covers this." **A young, struggling Pastor said... "I'm just parroting what the others are saying." **An Associate Pastor of Christian Education of a large fundamental Baptist Church in Colorado made the following statement to my wife and I after asking me for a concise statement, summing up divorce and remarriage: "Brother, wouldn't it be nice if we could base our "policies" on the Word of God rather than "convenience?" Incredibly, realizing and acknowledging this sin, he remained as the Associate Pastor of Christian Education. *A pastor from Wisconsin wrote, "Brother, I preached the Word of God concerning the permanence and sanctity of marriage. From the Word of God I explained to my members that the vows "until death do us part" spoken at their weddings when they were married can not be dissolved until death. I read and preached to them that the "one flesh relationship" created by God in marriage can not be dissolved until the death of a spouse. Later that week I was called before our denominational regional directors and told that if I didn't reconsider my position concerning this controversial subject ... they would consider the revocation of my "Ordination Certificate" as a Minister of the Word of God and my "Preacher's License". Please note: The following reason: "I made the decision to preach and feed my family" is -- BY FAR --.the most used excuse that I have heard from pastors, violating the clear Word of God. QUESTION: Are any of the above reasons given to me by pastors, BIBLICAL REASONS? Is it possible that one of these ministers may have been your very own pastor or the minister who officiated at your wedding. Tell me, shouldn't all of the listed reasons given for violating their original convictions be considered as "very serious, deeply buried spiritual fault lines" on which you and others have built their earthly and eternal futures upon?
Tell everyone you know, every place you go that One
man and one woman The death of a spouse is His only exception!!
How can I encourage you?
2 - C Some are teaching that remarriage while the divorced spouse is still living is justified because of "The DESERTION of an UNBELIEVER" and they quote 1 Corinthians 7:15, " But if the unbeliever departs, let him depart; a brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases. But God has called us to peace."
Please remember the universal principle of how to correctly interpret the Word of God by using the simple "context, context and context" rule or, "the verse within the text, which is found within the context, which is found within the greater text, which is the whole of the Word of God." First, look at the "key" words within the verse itself. In this verse the key words are "unbeliever"; ... "let him depart"; ... "believers not under bondage" ...and, "peace". The truth of this verse is that marriage, the home and the family isn't to be turned into a "war zone" by an unbeliever or, anyone else. The Believers in the churches located in Corinth, Rome and in all other cities and villages as well were, for the most part, recent converts to Christ and Christianity. As ... new converts, many of them now had husbands or wives that were not saved. These new "Christians" hadn't previously married into an "unequally yoked marriage" but rather -- because of their new Faith in Christ Jesus -- their existing marriage coupled with their new faith in Jesus Christ, created an "unequally yoked marriage." Their unsaved spouses were still practicing heathens or still believers in Judaism and didn't want anything to do with Christ and their spouse's new faith walk. If this verse had no context and stood all by itself, the meaning will remain:
Today, many Born Again Christians deliberately violate the Word of God by dating and marrying the unsaved. They deliberately date and marry a mission field against the counsel of their parents, family, friends, Pastor and the Word of God. If that is the case then the old adage, "Son or Daughter, you made your bed and now you can sleep in it," is your lot in life. You deserve it! You wanted a mission field now be faithful to your mission. Other missionaries across the globe are! If your unbelieving spouse wants to divorce because of your faith in Christ and...because of your Christian life, let them get the divorce. Not you! In fact, it would be wise to say something like, "Honey, if you really want a divorce, you'll have to initiate it. I do not want a divorce because I love the Lord and I love you. If you insist, I love you enough to help you pack. Is there some place you would like me to bring you? or, is there someone you want me to call for you?" Why can I say this? I say this because of the context of the whole passage. Read verses:13-14:
The verses immediately before verse 15 demonstrates God's concern is for the salvation of the unsaved spouse, and the Holiness and welfare of the children. AND, the verse immediately following verse 15 again demonstrates God's concern is for the salvation of the unsaved spouse: 1 Corinthians 7:16, "For how do you know, O wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, O husband, whether you will save your wife?"
Important
note: this verse is very important to the
contextual understanding of "let them
leave...you are not bound..." verse 15 instructs believers to "peacefully let the husband / wife
leave and pursue and live peacefully. Verse 16 is the "why
should I "peacefully let the husband / wife
leave and pursue and live peacefully?" you
may be setting the example of Christ-likeness that
is necessary to - now notice this because this is
the key - save your husband / save your wife. The
natural progression for verse 16 is to assume that the
unbelieving spouse is gone (verse
15), i.e. Separated or
divorced yet your lord and mine instructs us that
the separated or divorced, un-believing husband /
wife remain our husband / wife even though
--- they are gone by separation or divorce! This understanding is shored up by the following verses: Wives: 1 Peter 3:1, " Wives, likewise, be submissive to your own husbands, that even if some do not obey the word, they, without a word, may be won by the conduct [Godly lifestyle...added] of their wives." Husbands and wives: Hebrews 12:14-15, " Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord: [15] looking carefully lest anyone fall short of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up cause trouble, and by this many become defiled;" On the other hand, if your mission field / spouse is "criminally...mentally and / or physically abusive" of you or your children (this isn't the excuse, "I don't love him any more" etc.), God has given Romans 13:1-4 to you and me: Romans 13:1-4, " Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. [2] Whosoever therefore resists the power, resists the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. [3] For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Will you then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and you shall have praise of the same: [4] For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if you do that which is evil, be afraid; for he bears not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that does evil." If your sanity and safety is in jeopardy because your spouse is threatening and carrying out harmful and violent activities, call the police and have that spouse legally removed from the home. Get a legal restraining order or an order for separate maintenance from the judge. These actions taken by a Christian are not against the Word of God but getting a divorce for these reasons certainly are. Remember: A divorce is only for the reason of "unrepentant, sexual immorality." Not for any other reason. Period. Finally, consider the whole context of 1 Corinthians chapter 7. (Whole context meaning the entire chapter) Chapter 7 begins with: 1 Corinthians 7:1-2, "Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. [2] Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband." Primary reason for this verse: For the singles, widows and widowers, if they are inclined and driven to sexual activity, don't sexually violate another person, get married. 1 Corinthians 7:8-9, "I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. [9] But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn." Secondary reason for this verse: For the married man and woman, you are one flesh with your own wife or husband. Don't enter into an adulterous relationship by having sex with someone other than the spouse of your original vows. Chapter 7 closes with:
Corinthians 7:39, "A wife is bound as
long as her husband lives; but if her husband is
dead, she is free to be married to whom she wishes, only
in the Lord."
Greek
deo / bound, Greek 1210, Strong's Concordance &
Dictionary
as in bind / nit into "one flesh"
until death do us part
and note
that the verse
doesn't say... bound as long as her husband stays. Primary reason for verse:39 Don't even think about getting married until your spouse dies. Secondary reason for verse:39 After your spouse dies, you can remarry with only one restriction, "you must marry a born again Christian". CONCLUSION of "The DESERTION of an UNBELIEVER" Contextually, 1 Corinthians 7:15, " But if the unbeliever departs, let him depart; a brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases. But God has called us to peace," can not possibly be an escape clause for the divorced who's unbelieving divorced spouses are still living. CONCLUSION to the reasons that have caused confusion over the past 30 to 40 years: (1) It is never acceptable to remarry when the divorced spouse is still living.
(2)
There are no
NEW TESTAMENT exclusions
allowing remarriage when a divorced *Salvation followed the divorce and remarriage IS NOT a New Testament exclusion! *The divorce happened because of an immoral and unrepentant partner IS NOT a New Testament exclusion!! *The unbeliever deserted the marriage IS NOT a New Testament exclusion!! (3) Remarriage following a divorce while the divorced spouse is living is always...adultery.
Church
member. You and I heard what the Apostle Paul
wrote. What is our decision? _________________________________________________________________
QUESTION:
There
is no such thing as easy believism, It's the high cost of our discipleship!! What is our decision?
This is my personal Mailbox
for Email. _______________________________________________________________ there are FOUR (4) MAJOR OVERLOOKED ISSUES
The Word of God concerning NO Spiritual fault lines! The 1 OVERLOOKED ISSUE: (A) The Word of God: *God is very clear about divorce: Malachi 2:16, "I hate divorce." God does not hate the person because He, God... is a divorced man. See Jeremiah 3:8. *God never intended for people to divorce. Matthew 19:8, "He said to them, "Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so." Hebrews 12:14-15, "Follow peace (not divorce) with all men (this includes your spouse), and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: [15] Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled." *Jesus Christ taught that divorce is only for open and unrepentant sexual immorality. Matthew 5:32, "but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the cause of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery." *If
a
divorced couple should desire to reconcile and remarry, having
never married 1 Corinthians 7:11, "But even if she does depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband is not to divorce his wife." *Should a spouse die, the living person is free to remarry. Romans 7:3, "So then if, while her husband lives, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man." 1 Corinthians 7:39, "The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord." *If either
has married someone else while separated from their original
spouse, even Deuteronomy 24:4, "Then her former husband who divorced her must not take her back to be his wife after she has been defiled; for that is an abomination before the Lord, and you shall not bring sin on the land which the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance." Jeremiah 3:1a, "They say, if a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? Shall not that land be greatly polluted?" *Whenever
marriage to another person occurs while a
divorced spouse is still alive,
the Romans 7:1-4, "Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he lives? [2] For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he lives; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. [3] So then if, while her husband lives, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. [4] Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to Him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God." Mark 10:7-12, "For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, [8] and the two shall become one flesh; so then they are no longer two, but one flesh. [9] Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate." [10] In the house His disciples also asked Him again about the same matter. [11] So He said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. [12] And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery." Luke 16:18, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced from her husband commits adultery." Note: Be sure to pay close attention to the following verse folks. It isn't an "escape clause" BUT it is a "cause and effect" clause. Christ sounds a clear warning coupled with condemnation, guilt and fault. Matthew 5:32, "but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the cause of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery." It should be obvious from the number of verses found in the Word of God that the issue that has God's condemnation is the remarriage that follows a divorce, while the divorced spouse is still living. The only time that the "divorce" is an issue is when there is a divorce for some other reason than unrepentant, sexual immorality i.e. "I knew that I didn't love my spouse when we got married;" Or, "My spouse was a lazy drunk;" Or, "My spouse was abusive;" Or, "Irreconcilable differences (how can truly Born again Christians ever say this? Impossible!);" Etc. None of these reasons for divorce are Biblical reasons and none of these reasons have God's blessings. As with any and all other sins, it must be confessed and repented of.
Psalm 119:11
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B, C and D "Confession" is not "repentance" and "divorce" is not "death" The 2 OVERLOOKED ISSUE: (B) The "One flesh relationship" issue. Genesis 2:24, "Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh." Matthew 19:5-6, "and said, 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'? [6] So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate'." Mark 10:8, "and the two shall become one flesh'; so then they are no longer two, but one flesh." Ephesians 5:31, "For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh." Romans 7:3 and 1 Corinthians 7:39 both conclude that only death dissolves the one flesh issue of marriage. Therefore, the one flesh issue doesn't dissolve simply because of a "writ of divorcement." Romans 7:3, "So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man." Please note: Our Lord, using Paul as His secretary / writer didn't call her first husband her "ex-husband" or "divorced" husband. He is called her husband. Some may want to down play or even dismiss this fact. The Author, Jesus Christ, didn't down play or dismiss it. 1 Corinthians 7:39, "A wife is bound by law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband dies, she is at liberty to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord." Again, please take note: This is New Testament Scripture and not the Old Testament. I hear all the time that we're not under the law. Both Romans 7:3 and 1 Corinthians 7:39 are New Testament Scriptures having been written after our Lord's ascension into Heaven and to the New Testament Churches. Each refers to a binding "law". Matthew 5:18 isn't Old Testament either and yet our Lord said "that not one jot nor tittle will pass (away) from the law until it is totally fulfilled." What law is invoked here? The law of one flesh that was established in Genesis 2:24 and Matthew 19:6-8. There is another New Testament law that is also involved here,1 John 2:4, "'The one who says, 'I have come to know Him,' and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.'" Jesus Christ is the Creator God, the only Author and Architect of all Scripture, Old Testament and New Testament. Be very careful of picking and choosing Scripture based upon "that's Old Testament" or "that's New Testament." Jesus Christ answered the question of divorce with: Matthew 19:6, 8 "And He answered and said unto them, 'Wherefore they are no more two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder.'" [8] "He said unto them, 'Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts suffered [means to permit... added] you to put away your wives: but from the beginning of creation...[I added] it was not so.'" IMPORTANT
NOTE: I had a pastor tell me that God / Jesus Christ
gave Moses permission and / or approval to grant divorce therefore,
divorce and remarriage was permissible. For your Spiritual
safety and eternality, I'm going on record to say to you that
the above verses, Matthew 19:6 and 8 do not even come
close to even suggest that Christ was even happy with Moses
decision much less that He approved. One more time and for
the record, God /
Jesus Christ hates divorce Matthew 19:10, "His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry." [KJV] Matthew 19:10, "His disciples said to Him, "If such is the case of the man with his wife, it is better not to marry." [NKJV] Matthew 19:10, "The disciples said to Him, "If the relationship of the man with his wife is like this, it is better not to marry." [NASV] Matthew 19:10, "Jesus' disciples then said to him, 'If that is how it is, it is better not to marry!'" [The Living Translation] Matthew 19:10, "The disciples said to him, "If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry." [NIV] Was remarriage a controversial subject to the disciples? No! Not at all!!! It wasn't controversial then and, the Word of God isn't controversial now!!! They understood that if they married and their marriage didn't work out and a divorce took place, they could never marry again. Certainly, not until the death of their divorced spouse. And, ladies and men, don't forget that they were men and they also -- had needs. Because we have never -- up close and personally -- met the Disciples, it's easy to forget that they were just as human and you and me. The Disciples understood what Christ said and...Pastors know that adultery is a physical act: 1 Corinthians 6:18, "Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body." [KJV] What is the meaning of fornication? The Greek word is porneia on which our English words porno and pornography is derived. Fornication includes adultery, incest and fornication. 1 Corinthians 6:18, "Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body." [KJV] 1 Corinthians 6:18, "Flee immorality. Every other sin that a man commits is outside the body, but the immoral man sins against his own body." [NASV] 1 Corinthians 6:18, "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body." [NIV] 1 Corinthians 6:18, "Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body." [NKJV] 1 Corinthians 6:18, "Shun fornication! Every sin that a person commits is outside the body; but the fornicator sins against the body itself." [NRSV] 1 Corinthians 6:18, "That is why I say to run from sex sin. No other sin affects the body as this one does. When you sin this sin it is against your own body." [Living Word] Why can I say so emphatically that Pastors know that adultery is a physical act?! When it comes to the attention of the Pastor that a member of his congregation is having an adulterous affair, what does that Pastor and his Board do? They contact that member and tell them to stop the affair or else _______________ . What exactly...is that adulterous member to stop doing? Stop having "sex" with someone. Immorality, fornication and adultery are all "sexual sins that happen to-and-in, the body." Some examples, a business man having sex with his secretary; a salesman having sex with another woman; a Pastor having sex with the organist; a teacher having sex with a student, etc. It is adultery, fornication and immorality because they are engaged in the "activity of sex with each other's bodies." That act of sex... is ...adultery. Pastors, board members, husbands, wives, children and all thinking adults of the congregation insist that sexual adultery must be stopped because it is called A D U L T E R Y, Correct? And, we can not have adulterers in the Church membership. God's letter to the Church Members in Rome informed all of the divorced and remarried members who had a living divorced spouse that they were adulterers, living in adultery, Romans 7:2-3, "For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he lives; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.[3] So then if, while her husband lives, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man." Isn't a "Church Member" an individual
that has:
Many declare that the divorced and remarried members of the Church in Rome and in the membership of your assembly who are living in divorce & remarried adultery, were forgiven of their sin and can remain in that sinful relationship because 1 Corinthians 6:11 teaches that they were washed, sanctified and justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. Only confession is necessary for this sin and not repentance. : If adulterers are in the same list of folks in verses 9 and 10 with nine other lifestyle sinners that must stop their sinfulness -- why don't our remarried adulterers have to stop? Folks, this isn't a new problem. Our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, used the Apostle Paul to confront this very issue 2,000 years ago. Paul was lead of the Lord to write the following warning to the same Churches in Corinth in 56 AD concerning the unrepentant, "Church member" adulterers: Because confession is not repentance and divorce is not death, please read the following:
Exactly what...is the seriousness of the "One Flesh" situation that the divorced and the remarried...whose divorced spouses are still living, face? I'll attempt to create a word picture for me and you. Because the Word of God clearly teaches that only death dissolves the "one flesh" relationship that bonds and binds a man and a woman until the death of one of them, we'll consider a common, every day scenario illustration that you and I observe, and rub shoulders with, every day of our lives. For my illustration I'll create a marriage using the names Sue, John, Al and Jane to help us understand the REALITY of this sin. For our illustration I am not using the following names serendipitously so-as-to "NOT" point to any individuals that I know or have spoken with. The names used in the following illustration are just that, common, everyday names. 1- Sue marries John. On their honeymoon they consummate their marriage by having sexual relations and they became... "one flesh." 2- Sue divorces John. Even though Sue and John are divorced, they are still "one flesh" though they no longer share the same house or the same bed. As a matter of fact, they are so angry and bitter (good, Godly and God honoring emotions, right?) with each other that each of them moves to opposite ends of the globe to avoid ever seeing each other again. Sue once again has joined the SINGLES ranks. 3- Sue becomes lonely. She also misses all of the benefits and happy times of the married life. Because she is lonely she begins to socially circulate. After a period of time she meets Al, falls in love with Al and marries him. This is Sue's...2nd marriage but... Al's, first marriage. Romans 7:3 and 1 Corinthians 7:39 both agree that only death dissolves the one flesh relationship and not divorce ... and because John is still living, Sue's husband, John and Sue are still "one flesh". On Sue's second honeymoon, Sue and Al consummate her new 2nd....marriage and, Sue and Al become "one flesh,"...ALSO. Now three people, count them: #1- Sue; #2- John; #3- Al, are all "one flesh" because not one of them has died. 4- Sue's divorced husband John is still very much alive...and...still one flesh with Sue even though they live on opposite corners of the globe. When Al had sexual relations with Sue and consummated his "very first marriage" which was Sue's "2nd marriage", WHO ELSE WAS AL HAVING SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH?! Remember, the Word of God CLEARLY DECLARES that Sue and John are still "one flesh" until one of them DIES. Divorce is not death and death has not happened so.......when....... Al becomes "one flesh" with Sue, who is yet ..."one flesh" with John, you figure out what kind of relationship Al and John are having... "vicariously" ... and ... "in realty" ...each and every time Al has sexual relations with his wife, Sue. 5- Question: Will this scenario stop here? Not as a rule. Because Sue is remarried, her divorced husband John is still angry, hurt, lonely and telling himself and everyone he knows that ... "I'm a man, you know. I have needs, too!" {I've heard this excuse over and over and women say "I'm a woman and..."), he'll go to his friends, relatives and finally his Pastor(?) crying all over the place saying, "My ex wife is remarried, so why can't I ... get married again?!" And, today, in our 21st century modern and enlightened church, he will most-likely hear, "We can't think of a good reason. After all, Sue left you. You didn't do anything wrong!" Now John has the blessing of his pastor (lower case "p") and his church membership soooooo ... he searches for another wife and meets Jane. Even though he knows that his divorced wife Sue is alive {and they are yet, one flesh) and married to Al, John and Jane get married........anyway. John knows that Romans 7:3 teaches "So then if, while her husband lives, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man." He also knows that 1 Corinthians 7:39 teaches that "the wife is bound by the law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord." Now that John is married again the one flesh relationship has grown to four individuals: (#1)
John, his 2nd wife QUESTION: THINK ABOUT THIS BEFORE YOU DISMISS IT AS STUPID OR NONSENSE! Isn't (#1) John WHO IS ONE FLESH WITH Sue having a vicarious sexual relationship with (#4) Al because - they are all "one flesh"? YOU WHO ARE PASTORS and CHURCH FAMILY LEADERS: Will you explain to me and to those who write to me, why this divorce and remarriage adultery...isn't - Adultery even though the Word of God clearly calls divorce & remarriage with living divorced spouses --- ADULTERY? Will you also explain how that a divorce dissolves the one flesh relationship that has been the bedrock of marriage since Adam and Eve. Will you also explain how that a divorce dissolves the "until death do us part" wedding vows that only death can dissolve? A Pastor from Colorado who has classes for the divorced and remarried (how to get over the hurt and get on with life) emailed the following answer to the above questions: "We believe God's grace covers this and we hold His grace at a very high standard and man's flesh and human ability at a lower standard." Christ's reply to that Pastor and all others is: Romans 6:1-2,
"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? AGAIN, YOU WHO ARE PASTORS and CHURCH FAMILY LEADERS: How many of you will not allow as members of your Church fellowship homosexuals, fornicators {folks living together outside of marriage), smokers, social drinkers and gamblers? How many of you will tell members - and even visitors that - men with long hair, or - men not wearing a dress shirt with a tie, or - women with short hair, or - women with short skirts, or - women wearing slacks... are not welcome in the worship services because these activities and fashions are not to be tolerated as appropriate for the members? How many of you will tell an individual that they cannot be members of your Church Family unless they agree to a KJV only, mandate? Yet, you have the divorced and remarried who's divorced spouses are yet living as ministry leaders and members? And many of you will actually tell a divorced and remarried member that, "Yes, you can be a member but you cannot be a Deacon because 1 Timothy 3:12 clearly states that Deacons must be the husband of one wife?" For membership -- you allow a church member to be the husband of "more than one wife" (divorce is not death) but you draw a spiritual, righteous line concerning the qualifications for Deacons? For membership, being the husband of more than one wife (the irrevocable one flesh relationship) is Ok but, not not Ok for Deacons. Question, have you really prayerfully and carefully thought through this contradiction? I can promise you this, God isn't going to tell you one thing and then tell me something different. One of us is incorrect and until you can call or email me your verses of Scripture contradicting what is above, I counsel you to adopt what is above. The divorced and remarried with living divorced spouses that are members of your church are -- sexually immoral / ADULTERERS - LEAVEN?! And, they are to repent or be removed from the membership, 1 Corinthians Chapter 5, all of it. And, repenting of this sin is very, very difficult, heart rending and physically, emotionally and financially costly. PASTORS and CHURCH FAMILY LEADERS, one day you will be required to explain your double standard to Jesus Christ, face to face. (1 Timothy 5:22; Hebrews 13:17; Matthew 12:36; 2 Corinthians 5:10) I am convinced that there is no such thing as:
(1) Easy
believism; Many of you who visit this page knew better than to remarry but - for a variety of reasons and excuses - you did anyway.
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