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Do you have questions, doubts or fears concerning Marriage, Separation, Divorce, Divorce & Remarriage?
Are you considering Separation, Divorce or are you
already Separated or Divorced?




We've been married almost 50 years;
 Have three married sons,
daughters-in-law
and
six grandchildren.

What you are about to read and / or study comes from the Word of God, my personal studies & convictions, ministry and family experiences coupled with a life time of observations and conversations.  I'm almost 70 years old.

It is our hope and desire that this page will encourage you in the truth of the Word of God by giving you Biblical answers to many of the questions that you have asked or wondered about and Biblical solutions to those questions, doubts and fears -- motivating you to Godly action.

The following three verses of Scripture are keys in understanding our approach to life, ministry and the Word of God.  
        1 John 5:4
 
        " For who ever is born of God -- overcomes the world.  And this is the
          victory that has overcome the world -- our faith."
        2 Timothy 3:16 
        "All Scripture --  is inspired by God and profitable for teaching,  for reproof,
          for correction,  for training in righteousness" 
         Luke 18:8b 
         "..... However, when the Son of Man comes, will He find -- faith --  on the
           earth?"
Do you have questions, doubts or fears concerning Marriage, Separation, Divorce, Divorce / Remarriage?

 Sincerely,

 Rev. Robert J. (Pastor K) and Mrs. Kuiphoff

 

This is a Living by Obedient  

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Have you asked why today's marriages and relationships are self-destructing?
"What is going, wrong?"  Or, "What, went wrong?"

GOD ASKS THE FOLLOWING QUESTION:
" If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?"
(Psalm 11:3)
What are some of the foundations that are in the process of destruction?
**Church?  **Family?  **Marriage?  **Business?  **Government?  Etc?

Observation and personal experience has taught me that one of the most appropriate  analogies to graphically picture the destruction of interpersonal relationships, i.e. marriage, family and all other institutions, is parallel to the natural forces that take place with an EARTHQUAKE.  An earthquake analogy is appropriate because most of us can wrap our arms of understanding around the truths of an earthquake, especially in view of TV coverage graphically showing us earthquake damage and with the TV mini series

Fact: Earthquakes HAPPEN ALONG or OVER
"fault lines"!
Interpersonal divisions happen along
"PERSONAL FAULT LINES"

Updated 4:20 PM, September 9,2011

I've just finished a phone conversation with a local pastor with a large membership.  I asked him a question concerning the eligibility for Church leadership and membership regarding a distinct and growing group of people.  He said that his ministry had these folks as members.  I "politely" asked if he had a single verse of Scripture permitting their membership.  Without hesitation he answered:

"If you're going to hold us to that standard
(only one verse of Scripture out of the entire Word of God)
we aren't the church for you."

I believe that our world is asking the same question
that Pontius Pilate asked Jesus Christ
over 2000 years ago,
"What is truth?"
John 18:38

 

  The majority of California earthquakes are LINKED to the San Andreas
fault line (pictured below) which is clearly visible to all.
 

 

 


Inserted pic file credit to: The San Andreas fault slicing through the Carrizo Plain in the Temblor Range east of the city of San Luis Obispo
(Photograph by Robert E. Wallace, USGS.) 

 

On February 28, 2001, the United States had a very damaging earthquake in Washington State,
damaging Seattle (pictures seen below)

Unlike the San Andreas fault line that is clearly visible, the geological fault that devastated Seattle lay almost 30 miles deep below the earth's surface, totally unseen by the human eye
but -- well known to the United States Geological Survey Division.

 

 The Seattle earthquake destroyed property,
derailed
lives and dreams -- leaving damaged lives in its wake. 
 

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The truths concerning marriage and family are parallel to the truths of God's creation therefore, what are our SPIRITUAL FAULT LINES?  Are we even aware of our Spiritual fault lines?  We all have them.

It has been suggested that:

Marriage does not create "bad people."

                                           "YET"

          Marriage can reveal the "bad... within ...people".

Many of you have written to me saying there is much confusion concerning "THE" remarriage, "AFTER" a divorce.  It is also noteworthy to say to you,


not a single email ... has suggested ... that the confusion
over divorce and remarriage is due to the clarity of the Word of God.

Universally, the stated reason for the confusion is:

"Christian marriage -- within the Christian Church -- and lived by the 20th. and 21st. century Christian community is entirely different than what our early Church history teaches us and what we read --- in the Word of God."  Sadly, "many pastors are deeply buried...spiritual fault lines."
                                                               See Pastor


Our very first question has to be, "What does God think about divorce?"

Malachi 2:16

"'For I hate divorce', says the Lord, the God of Israel...'"
We cannot deny that divorces do occur and have occurred throughout history.
Is God silent concerning

The REMARRIAGE
AFTER
The DIVORCE?

 

 


---------ADDED March 26, 2009---------

I had a long discussion with a local Pastor of a Fundamental Baptist Church [a man my own age] who is struggling and has struggled for years with the issue of the Born Again and their remarriages while they have a living, divorced spouse.  He admitted that his struggle isn't with the clarity of the Word of God, his personal struggle is that a sister, who he loves dearly, is divorced and remarried and her divorced husband is yet living.   Out of that discussion the Lord laid it on my heart to simplify this issue by succinctly reviewing our Lord's long history concerning marriage and His Children.

DIVORCE and REMARRIAGE SIMPLIFIED

Question:  Are you a Born Again Christian?  And, you know that and you're sure that you are Born Again?  

Yet, as a Born again Christian you are struggling with separation, divorce and or divorce & remarriage? >>>>>>>
Before exploring any farther >>>>>>>
please consider the following very few verses.  I am appealing to your Christian "common sense / conscience" and the "Holy Spirit's witness" within you:

[1] God's Word, 1 Peter 2:9, instructs us that Born Again Christians are a "Royal Priesthood":

"But you are a chosen race, a Royal Priesthood, a dedicated nation, [God's] own purchased, special people, that you may set forth the wonderful deeds and display the virtues and perfections of Him Who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light". (Amplified Bible)

[2] Our Priesthood as the Body of Jesus Christ is patterned after the Priesthood of God's Children, the Nation of Israel:

Exodus 19:5-6, “Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be a special treasure to Me above all people; for all the earth is Mine. [6] And you shall be to Me a Kingdom of Priests and a holy nation.' These are the words which you shall speak to the children of Israel.” (NKJV)

[3] The Old Testament was written for our, New Testament Believer's, knowledge, example and admonition, not to be discarded or ignored:

Romans 15:4, "For whatever things were written before were written for our learning, that we through the patience and comfort of the Scriptures might have hope". (NKJV)

1 Corinthians 10:11, "Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come". (NKJV)

[4] Because we are a "Royal Priesthood" & "Dedicated Nation" patterned after the Old Testament Nation of Israel "Kingdom of Priests" and "Holy Nation" -- doesn't it make sense that as such we should abide by the same rules for marriage by which the normal Daily Priests, not the High Priest, were regulated?

Ezekiel 44:22,Neither shall they take for their wives a widow or a woman separated or divorced from her husband; but they shall marry maidens [who are virgins] of the offspring of the house of Israel or a widow previously married to a priest.” (Amplified Bible)

As a truly Born Again Christian, Jesus Christ of the New Testament clearly teaches us that we are Normal, Everyday -- Daily Priests: (When was the last time a Pastor taught you this truth?  We should be reminded regularly if not weekly.)

**The Normal Daily Priest was not to marry a separated or divorced woman;

---------- Compare with Romans 7:2-3 ----------

Romans 7:2-3, "For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. [3] So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man." 

**The Normal Daily Priest was only to marry virgins of the Nation of Israel;

  ---------- Compare with 2 Corinthians 6:14 ----------

2 Corinthians 6:14, "Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?"

**The Normal Daily Priest could marry the widow of a Priest.

---------- Compare with 1 Corinthians 7:39 ----------

1 Corinthians 7:39, "A wife is bound by law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband dies, she is at liberty to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord." 

Dear Christian, what separates us from false religions, the cults and the unsaved is that by our personal faith that is based upon the written Word of God and the leadership of His Holy Spirit Who lives within us, we believe:

1- that Jesus Christ is God, John 1:1.

2- As God, He never changes, Malachi 3:6; Hebrews 13:8.

3- Because He (God / Jesus Christ) never changes, it is very safe to conclude that the same marriage parameters that God / Jesus Christ established for the every day, Daily Priests of the Nation of Israel are the same marriage parameters for us, the Household of Jesus Christ, the Bride of Christ and His dedicated nation.  This truth creates for us a "safe, sure and simple" example and pattern to follow.  It removes the questions that modern day and fallen theology has created.  Only 13 Verses of Scripture and the questions and all doubts are solved.  

 

I- With the Lord's leading, I am attempting to:
     (A) shed light on some of the reasons that have definitely caused confusion over 
            the past  30 to 40 years;
    
(B) be concise, yet ... complete enough, to answer your questions.

1- The first section is, "obvious reasons" that are causing confusion:
    ** reasons "fundamental" pastors give for remarriage creating confusion which     
         are deeply buried spiritual fault lines (spiritual earthquake) because they
         are unknown to the listener.  **This section was updated June 19, 2007

 

         **My first personal experience with this issue as a Pastor.

       ** reasons "Christian" husbands and wives give for their remarriages which,
            to the hearer, should be clearly visible spiritual (spiritual earthquake)
            fault lines.

2- The second section is, "subtle ERRORS" that are major reasons for confusion:

The doctrinal errors which, when compared with the Word of God, are clearly visible spiritual fault lines.  (spiritual earthquake)
[A] Salvation covers this sin. Remarriage is the only sin that God's grace doesn't
      require repentance (stop and turn from). 
[B]
Unrepentant immoral spouse is a justifiable reason for remarriage.
[C]
Desertion by an unsaved spouse is a justifiable reason for remarriage.
[D]
The sin of presumption.

3- The third section is the "Word of God, building on the Rock with no Spiritual 
     fault lines" with my personal commentaries.  The following is the heart and soul 
     of this issue.

There are
four irrevocable roadblocks to remarriage while a divorced spouse is still living:
[A = #1] The Word of God;
[B = #2]
The irrevocable one flesh relationship;

             
Because
"confession" is not "repentance" and "divorce" is not "death":
            **
Our 21st century fundamental church "ABSOLUTION" of sin.
            **
What is the seriousness of the "one Flesh Relationship"
      

[C = #3]
The irrevocable wedding vows;
[D = #4] Certainly not true of all, yet, when listening to folks, it seems to me that the
               following is true of the majority, 
             
The irrevocable "known" -- consensual sexual intimacy before marriage.
[E]
Salvation is free but living our Christian life is not free & never has been free.
      [a] Before His crucifixion Jesus WARNED ALL to -
           "count the cost of discipleship" before making a decision to follow Him;

      [b]
After His crucifixion Jesus WARNED the CHURCH to          
            "count the cost of the Christian life and obedience."


THE QUESTION OF ETERNAL SECURITY / SECURITY OF THE BELIEVER  
and divorced  and remarried.

.

II- FAMILY and CHURCH DISCIPLINE (repairing and eliminating the spiritual 
     fault lines).
 
    ** What should Parents and Grandparents do when an adult child or grandchild 
         divorces and remarries or marries a divorced spouse?
     ** Personal Testimony of Obedient Parents

     **The author's counsel from personal experience to Parents and Grandparents.

Note:  If you are divorced and remarried and your divorced spouse is still living, you hold "in your own hands" the keys to reconciliation with those who you love and who love you. 

III- The Born Again divorced Christian:

The Born Again -- divorced Christian -- has a "God Ordained" ministry that only they can do with real empathy and enthusiasm. (2 Corinthians 1:2-4)  

IV- The - Born Again divorced and remarried couple

Divorced and remarried couples have potential for a tremendous "God Ordained ministry" that only they will be able to do with genuine empathy and enthusiasm
(2 Corinthians 1:2-4; Philippians 4:13; Philippians 4:19)

A personal note of warning FOR divorced and remarried couples: PLEASE THOROUGHLY READ THIS SECTION -- don't simply look at this " section title" and think, "Praise the Lord.  I knew we had a ministry!"   Yes, you certainly do have a potential ministry but your -- potential ministry -- will come at a very high, long term personal price

V-
 The divorced and remarried couple who's divorced spouse is yet living:

The 21st. century Christian Church approach and ministry to the divorced and remarried is no different than our  ministry to any other Christian in any other situation.  

VI-  The RESPONSIBILITIES of the Parents, Siblings, Grandparents, Aunts, Uncles 
        and all others "to-and-for" the divorced couple who's divorced spouse is yet 
        living:
 

**What should Parents and Grandparents do when an adult child or grandchild 
    marries into an adulterous relationship?

**The author's counsel from personal experience to (page link) Parents and
    Grandparents. 

 

VII- OTHER links that are of great value, strengthening the foundations of our 
        marriages:
 Family, Business, Government, Christian Schools
and a modern day Apostle Paul
 to Pastors and Christian workers:
 **Mr. Bill Gothard and the "Institute in Basic Life Principles" http://www.iblp.org/  

Creation and Biblical Doctrine:
     ** Ken Ham and his organization, "Answers in Genesis," www.answersingenesis.org
          www.answersingenesis.org/outreach/speakers/ken-ham

Financial: Many marriages crack due to financial distress:
**
Mr. Ron Blue is a Christian financial planner and author of many helpful 
    publications http://www.ronblue.com/ 
**
Mr. Larry Burkett is a Christian financial planner and author of many 
    helpful publications http://www.crown.org/

Prophecy: Our nation and Christian community needs a wake-up call:
**
Mr. Jack Van Impe is a leading eschatology {study of end days) speaker and 
    author  with a very informative
TV program  http://www.jackvanimpe.com/ and 
                                                                           

General information
: Excellent research group for many topics.
      **Barna Research Group, Ltd.  http://www.barna.org/  I use this organization,
          as do
many others, in our research because of the accuracy of their statistics. 

VIII- We can learn a  great deal from floods, tornados and  hurricanes to strengthen 
          our families, interpersonal relationships, businesses and our marriages.

**The United States Geological Survey Department http://neic.usgs.gov/
**The National Oceanic & Atmospheric
     Administration http://www.noaa.gov/
**The National Environmental Satellite, Data and Information 
     Service http://www.nesdis.noaa.gov/ 

Psalm 19:1-3; 29:1-11, "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament shows his handiwork. [2] Day unto day utters speech, and night unto night shows knowledge. [3] There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. [29:1]  "The voice of the Lord is over the waters; The God of glory thunders; The Lord is over many waters. [4] The voice of the Lord is powerful; The voice of the Lord is full of majesty. [5] The voice of the Lord breaks the cedars, Yes, the Lord splinters the cedars of Lebanon. [6] He makes them also skip like a calf, Lebanon and Sirion like a young wild ox.  [7] The voice of the Lord divides the flames of fire. [8] The voice of the Lord shakes the wilderness; The Lord shakes the Wilderness of Kadesh. [9] The voice of the Lord makes the deer give birth, And strips the forests bare; And in His temple everyone says, "Glory!" [10] The Lord sat enthroned at the Flood, And the Lord sits as King forever. [11] The Lord will give strength to His people; The Lord will bless His people with peace."



THREE FAILED YET PREVAILING THEOLOGIES

There are three prevailing theologies that, over the period of the past 30 to 40 years, have lead to disaster concerning salvation and the Christian life:

(1) Easy believism;
(2) Painless repentance which means ... it's easier to get forgiveness than permission;
(3)
Grace coupled with easy believism's eternal security covers everything past,
      present and future.

 


FIRST SECTION
"
"SOME VERY OBVIOUS REASONS FOR CONFUSION""

"Roads to certain disaster"

Isaiah 3:12b
"O My people! Those who lead you cause you to err,
And destroy the way of your paths
."

(1-A)

 "Comments from MANY - fundamental(?) Pastors(?)"

Three very important verses to think about as you read this section
concerning what Pastors have said:

Revelation 21:8 
"
But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral,
sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." 

Revelation 21:27 
"But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb's Book of Life."

Revelation 22:15 
"But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie." 

Over the past 30 years I have heard the following comments from Pastor after Pastor from Michigan to Florida; from Florida to Arizona; from Arizona to Washington State and Washington State to New York.

The following quotes are not hearsay but are quotes from personal conversations I have had with Senior Pastors and Assistant Pastors.  The following comments certainly reveal deeply  buried... spiritual fault  lines:

**A number of years ago a Pastor in a neighboring city thought it would be very helpful if my wife and I became members of his ministry and gave him a helping hand.  Before joining his ministry I gave him my "Philosophy of Ministry" manuscript that gives great detail about our convictions concerning divorce and divorce / remarriage.  After several months of helping the ministry by teaching a singles and married couples class, one of the deacons called and asked to meet with me.  He started the conversation by telling me that he was divorced and remarried and "he was very sure that my wife and I were not aware of his situation."  He also wanted us to know that at the next annual business meeting, of the five men to be considered for the "Office of Deacon," three were divorced men whose divorced wives were still living and that two of those men would certainly be elected.  The majority of the Deacon's Board would be divorced and remarried men whose divorced wives were still living.

When I confronted the Pastor, this is what I was told:

"Brother.  When I graduated from Seminary I didn't believe in divorce and remarriage while a divorced spouse was still alive.  In my very first ministry I was confronted with the issue and I had to make a decision.   Because I believed that the Lord had called me to preach and ... because I had a family to feed, I made the decision to preach and feed my family".

Question: Did this Pastor say that he had changed his mind about what the
                   Word of God taught?
Answer:    No, he changed his approach to ministry!
Question
Did he become a liar -- just so he could preach?
Question
Is he remaining in his ministry by causing and practicing a lie?



 

 

**"Brother, if I preached Romans 7:2-4, and 1 Corinthians 7:39, I wouldn't have a church left."

Question: Did this Pastor say that he had changed his mind about what the
                   Word of God taught?
Answer:    No, he changed his approach to ministry!
Question
Did he become a liar -- just so he could preach?
Question
Is he remaining in his ministry by causing and practicing a lie?

 **"When I graduated from Seminary I didn't agree with divorce and remarriage while a divorced spouse was still alive..."but" ...the Church that called me had those folks as members."

Question: Did this Pastor say that he had changed his mind about what the
                   Word of God taught?
Answer:    No, he changed his approach to ministry!
Question
Did he become a liar -- just so he could preach?
Question:  
Is he remaining in his ministry by causing and practicing a lie?

**"When I graduated from Seminary I didn't agree with divorce and remarriage while a divorced spouse was still alive..."but" ...all of the other men in my area [conference, denomination, association etc.] are doing it."

Question: Did this Pastor say that he had changed his mind about what the
                   Word of God taught?
Answer:    No, he changed his approach to ministry!
Question
Did he become a liar -- just so he could preach?
Question
Is he remaining in his ministry by causing and practicing a lie?

**"When I graduated from Seminary I didn't agree with divorce/remarriage while a divorced spouse was still alive..."but" the members of my congregation told me over and over again that Dr. Herb Vander Lugt, Radio Bible Class, Dr. Charles Swindoll and Dr. James Dobson, Focus on the Family all teach that God's mercy and grace covers this."

Question: Did this Pastor say that he had changed his mind about what the
                   Word of God taught?
Answer:    No, he changed his approach to ministry!
Question
Did he become a liar -- just so he could preach?
Question
Is he remaining in his ministry by causing and practicing a lie?


**This text table contains the updated note of June 19, 2007:

The Word of God warns us to be careful concerning whose counsel we retain and who we follow:

Proverbs 24:21-22, "My son, fear the Lord and the king; Do not associate with those given to change; [22] For their calamity will rise suddenly, and who knows the ruin those two can bring?"

Hebrews 13:9, "Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them"

Dear reader, before reading the following notations concerning men of God that we know, love and respect, please understand that the following notes are not written spitefully, vindictively or with malice.  Two men in particular, that I respected and trusted, Dr. Swindoll and Dr. MacArthur, have done exactly what our Lord warns us to be aware of, changed a major theology.  The Apostle Paul established an example for each of us when he discovered that the Apostle Peter was teaching and practicing heresy before the believers of the Churches in Galatia.  Our Lord and Saviour instructed him to write the following that would be read by all generations of Believers:

Galatians 2:11, "Now when Peter had come to Antioch, I withstood him to his face, because he was to be blamed."  

Further, he was also instructed by our Lord and Saviour to write the following that would be read by all generations of Believers:

2 Timothy. 4:14, "Alexander the coppersmith did me much harm. May the Lord repay him according to his works. [15] You also must beware of him, for he has greatly resisted our words."

Following Paul's example of warning and instruction, I write the following.  I'm not perfect and the following men of God are not perfect, either.  Though we are not perfect, each of us does have the following in common, when we are personally confronted with any error of doctrinal teaching on our part, we must change our personal doctrines to agree with the Author of all Christian Doctrine, Jesus Christ and His Word.  We have no other options.  Our feelings, i.e., "I think," "I believe" and etc. must not interfere with plain and obvious Biblical texts.

**Re: Dr. John MacArthur and his change in theology concerning repentance.

Years ago, Dr. John MacArthur was in total agreement with the Word of God concerning divorce and remarriage.  It was very disappointing to me to recently discover and have verified by an Elder of his ministry that he -- "even though he yet teaches" that a second marriage while a divorced spouse is yet living is adultery  and is an on going sin, he now teaches that the  adulterous couple must remain in their adulterous / sinful marriage because God forbids (!?!) a second divorceDear Christian Believer, we don't need a book or a booklet of theology to prove how wrong this dear brother is.  We need only
four verses:

Romans 6:1-2, "What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? [2] Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?"

Acts 3:19, "Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord".

Acts 17: 30-31, "Such [former] ages of ignorance God, it is true, ignored and allowed to pass unnoticed; but now He charges all people everywhere to repent (to change their minds for the better and heartily to amend their ways, with abhorrence of their past sins), [31] Because He has fixed a day when He will judge the world righteously (justly) by a Man Whom He has destined and appointed for that task, and He has made this credible and given conviction and assurance and evidence to everyone by raising Him from the dead."  [Amplified Version]

Please join me in asking Brother John MacArthur to publicly repent and return to the truth.

**Dr. James Dobson

I have in my files a document that I received from Dr. Dobson's  Director, Office of the President, dated May 1, 1996 that states that Dr. Swindoll is the author of Dr. Dobson's convictions concerning divorce and remarriage.  His Director also enclosed  Dr. Swindoll's 1981 booklet entitled "When It All Comes Tumbling Down"; Multnomah Press; ISBN 0-930014-64-2 for his documentation.

While living in Lakewood, Colorado, I drove to Dr. Dobson's headquarters in Colorado Springs just to talk with or personally schedule an appointment to speak with him.  I was unable to speak with anyone other than his Administrators and Directors.  His Administrators and directors were polite, knew his position, had my position document in hand because I had previously sent a copy and I also handed them a copy as I stood there concerning remarriage.  I was refused permission to meet with him then or make any future appointments.

The reason for the previous letter and booklet was that his Director had written to me:

"Dr. Dobson isn't a theologian, he's a psychologist.  He has deferred his position concerning remarriage to Dr. Swindoll who is a theologian."

When I read his explanation over 20 years ago, my thought then and still remains the same today, "what an incredible admission.  Dr. Dobson's whole radio, television, seminar, authored books and booklet ministries are theologically founded and known as a 'family ministry'".

Sadly, in 2001, Ryan Dobson, Dr. Dobson's son, divorced his wife.  It was said then and since his divorce that he was totally against his own divorce because he believed and stated that "his divorce was without Biblical grounds".  Why then did Ryan remarry?  Further, wouldn't it seem reasonable that Focus on the Family and Dr. Dobson would not allow Ryan, a man who is now living in sin according to their own stated theology, to have any part or position in their ministries?   

Folks, each and every one of us live with and experience God's Biblical "Law of the Harvest"...law.  I love Dr. Dobson and Focus on the Family.  It isn't my desire to "throw the baby out with the bath water" though -- I must confess to you --  I have lost confidence in his and their integrity.  The lesson and reality is that he is now another example of what happens when we teach and allow ourselves to believe any inaccurate doctrine (heresy).   God initiated His eternal "Law of the Harvest" (Read Genesis chapter 3) at the very beginning of creation and He warns us to:

"Keep your heart with all diligence, for out of it spring the issues of life."
  (Proverbs 4:23)
 

"Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap."
(Galatians 6:7)

What is the law of the harvest?

1- We reap what we sow, i.e., we plant corn and we reap corn;
2- We always reap more than we sow, i.e., we plant a kernel of corn and reap a stalk
     with "many ears" of corn;
3- We never reap in the same season that we sow, i.e. we plant in the spring and we reap in the fall.

Because we reap what we plant at a much later time and date than when the sin was sown, we very often feel blindsided {Why did this happen to me?) by the results of our sins.  Consider Ryan Dobson, Dr. Dobson and Focus on the Family and their present situation for our understanding:

In the Spring of Dr. Dobson's ministry he asked for, accepted and followed Dr. Swindoll's counsel.   For many years (the following seasons), Dr. Swindoll, Dr. Dobson and Focus on the Family have continued teaching the heresy that there are exceptions to God's marriage commands.  Now it is the Fall years of Dr. Dobson's ministry and -- Ryan Dobson, his son -- has followed his Dad's doctrine and not the Lord's and has remarried in total disobedience to the Word of God.  Do we now understand the law of the harvest?

Please consider rule #2, "we always reap more than we sow," i.e., they are now teaching to all who know them and sit under their ministries that divorce and remarriage is acceptable with God.  Can anyone possibly know how many have in the past and will, in the future, divorce and remarry in violation of the Word of God due to Dr. Dobson's teaching and Ryan Dobson's example?

Questions:

**Parents, do we really want to destroy a marriage and the lives within our 
    marriage through divorce?
**Do we really desire to have the marriages of our adult children, grandchildren etc. 
    become a divorce tragedy?

The New Testament Scriptures were written in Koiné Greek, which was the common, everyday, working people's -- Greek language.   The Word of God isn't written so that only Doctors of Theology can understand it but is "God's text book" and "God's manual" for-and-to the common, everyday working person, you and me.  Our easy-to-read Bible clearly teaches the Biblical permanence and sanctity / holiness of marriage.  That this Doctor {who is a University graduate with a doctoral degree] is entrusting the very foundation of his total ministry to the thoughts and convictions of some other man and -- hasn't trusted his own personal Lord to correctly direct his personal convictions for his own  ministry is a serious violation of 1 John 2:26-27, "These things I have written to you concerning those who try to deceive you. [27] But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him."

If you take nothing else away from this page, please take this:
Our God is our personal one-on-one God.  He keeps no secrets from His children and He -- personally -- instructs all who will obey Him James 1:5, "If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him."

Second hand theology -- is -- like second hand gossip.  The information -- is -- never the same at the end as it started and -- it is -- always distorted and damaged information.

**Dr. Herb Vander Lugt (Because of my respect for Dr. Vander Lugt, for almost four years I posted the Daily Bread Tribute for him at this point of the Lord's and my page.  I've removed it.)

VERY IMPORTANT NOTE:
It is important to note that the following was posted to this page many years prior to Dr. Vander Lugt's deathI posted the following in November of 1999, Dr. Vander Lugt died December 2, 2006 and he knew of this posting, because, when I posted it, I emailed it to him for his attention.  He never refuted the following, THEREFORE, I will not remove the information:

I have in my files the lengthy October of 1999 email discussion with  Dr. Herb Vander Lugt of the Radio Bible Classwho, at that time was a leading Christian radio and publications minister.  He wrote to me (and I have his email on file) that he didn't disagree with the texts or verses that I provided or -- the conclusions that I presented to him.  He continued with that he had difficulty... with a "hard and fast" interpretation of the Word of God ...because he felt that anything beyond praying for these folks and accepting divorce and remarriage as a fact of life in today's society was... in his opinion  (verbatim and not my addition)..."too harsh".  When I asked him if he was telling me that "God was too harsh" concerning (1) His will for the nation of Israel as recorded in Ezra 10:3 "Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law".  And (2) His command to Noah and his family as recorded for us in Hebrews 11:7 "By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith," and again 1 Peter 3:20, "Who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine long suffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water,"  Dr. Vander Lugt  would not give me an answer.

Question:   Did Dr. Vander Lugt say that he had changed his mind about what the
                     Word of God taught?
Answer:      No!  In fact, he said that he didn't disagree with the Scriptures or
                     my approach to the word of God. 
He changed this approach
                     in ministry!  
Question:   As pertaining to divorce and remarriage, did he cause and practice a
                     lie
?

An important note concerning Noah and the Arc:

It has been estimated that when Noah and his family [eight people] were saved from the world wide flood by that ark, 2.5 BILLION people living around the globe on this earth -- drowned.

The following is my personal experience concerning this very issue of the divorced and remarried in Church family ministries and membership:

In 1982, I was 37 years old, a husband and a father of three sons (one in junior high and two in high school) when I was called and installed in my very first ministry.   I had no idea that over 90% of the membership and visitors were divorced and remarried with a divorced spouse yet living.  I was their Pastor for over six-months when the Lord gave me a message concerning the sanctity and permanence of marriage and I didn't preach that message.  For two weeks I did not preach that message and the Sunday morning of the third week, as I was in the kitchen getting ready to leave for church, our Lord stopped me with a very quiet, "Robert, when are you going to preach that message I gave you?"  Instantly I knew what message it was and immediately and without any hesitation I TEARFULLY AND FEARFULLY said to Him, "Lord, if I preach that message 90% of the members and visitors will not return for the evening service.  HE REMAINED, SILENT.  Guess what folks?  I was correct!  After preaching that message those members and visitors that were divorced and remarried with a divorced spouse yet living did not return.  The very next day, Monday, following the preaching of that message -- our mail box began filling up with letters containing checks from folks we had never heard of or met in our lives.  It was then that I realized that our Lord had just taught me the most important lesson that I was ever going to learn as a Pastor Shepherd in a very convincing manner, "the Church is His Church and not my Church."  We had a conviction then that was reinforced at that time and continues to this very day that God's work done God's way will never lack God's provisions.  We have never asked anyone, family, friends, Churches or even our Home Mission for funds to support us in our ministries.  Our God doesn't fail His servants!!  When our God calls -- He empowers!  When He empowers He pays the bills!!!  37 years of age was over 40 years ago.  Since that remarkable Sunday of my very first Pulpit ministry I've Pastored Churches, Interim Pastored Churches, Pulpit supplied, have been guest speaker, closed, reorganized and started Churches.  I'm now almost 70 years old and our Lord is yet being faithful!

Today, this web site continues reaching folks across our globe with the truths from the Word of God concerning Salvation in and through the shedding of our Saviour Jesus Christ's blood, His death, burial and His resurrection, and, the sanctity and permanence of life (in and out of the womb) and marriage (until death). 

 

What does the Word of God teach us
concerning lying Pastors
?

Revelation 21:8 
"
But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral,
sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." 

Revelation 21:27 
" But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb's Book of Life."

Revelation 22:15 
" But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie." 

Later that same month, after I had completed the lengthy email discussion  with Dr. Vander Lugt,  I experienced one of my most frustrating situations in ministry.  In answer to my request that the leadership of the Radio Bible Class ask Dr. Vander Lugt to reconsider his remarriage position, one of his directors, who was a member of a very large fundamental church in Michigan, sent me an email saying that the Senior Pastor of the church that he is a member of did not agree with remarriage when a divorced spouse was still living and he would not perform weddings for the divorced folks in that situationThe Assistant Pastor saw nothing wrong with divorce and remarriage when a divorced spouse is yet living and -- did perform -- weddings for the divorced -- in their church sanctuaryHe concluded with - "and, our church membership doesn't have any problem with this arrangement." (Please read  Hebrews 13:17; 1 Corinthians 1:10; 1 Corinthians 14:33)

Is it any wonder that the world scoffs at the Christian community and the Word of God?

**A young, struggling Pastor said... "I'm just parroting what the others are saying."

**An Associate Pastor of Christian Education of a large fundamental Baptist Church in Colorado made the following statement to my wife and me after asking me for a concise statement summing up divorce and remarriage:  "Brother, wouldn't it be nice if we could base our "policies" on the Word of God rather than "convenience?"  Incredibly, realizing and acknowledging this sin, he remained as the Associate Pastor of Christian Education.

*A pastor from Wisconsin wrote, "Brother, I preached the Word of God concerning the permanence and sanctity of marriage.  From the Word of God I explained to my members that the vows "until death do us part" spoken at their weddings when they were married can not be dissolved until death.  I read and preached to them that the "one flesh relationship" created by God in marriage can not be dissolved until the death of a spouse.  Later that week I was called before our denominational regional directors and told that if I didn't reconsider my position concerning this controversial subject ... they would consider the revocation of my "Ordination Certificate" as a Minister of the Word of God and my "Preacher's License".   

A foot note to this Pastor's dilemma:  I praise the Lord that I can report to you that one week later the Lord provided him with a part time job, complete with a "living wage" and a paid "family benefits package" to encourage him and protect his income and his family needs regardless of what the church or his regional directors decided to do.  Another man in the community noticed that his vehicle was in need of repairs, bought his broken down vehicle for a ridiculous amount of money with the words, "now you can afford a good car."   PTL!

This Brother wrote the following follow up:

"We are growing one person at a time, and the first thing I hit is the marriage covenant.  I want all new ones to know where we stand.  It's funny, a babe in the Lord just says...yup, I see it; but that old crusty, tradition laden attender ... just does not want to hear it."

Please note:  The following reason: "I made the decision to preach and feed my family" is -- BY FAR -- the most used excuse that I have heard from pastors, violating the clear Word of God.

QUESTION Are any of the above reasons given to me by pastors BIBLICAL REASONS to justify another marriage (remarriage) for a divorced individual when their divorced spouse is still living?

Is it possible that one of these ministers may have been your very own pastor or the minister who officiated at your wedding?  Tell me, shouldn't all of the listed reasons given for violating their original convictions be considered as" very serious, deeply buried spiritual fault lines" on which you and others have built their earthly and eternal futures upon?  

PERSONAL NOTE:
By posting the reasons that I have been given by my peers (Pastor / Shepherds), I am attempting to make you aware that imperfect men make less than desirable decisions for
reasons that are far from godly, causing others to sin and fail in their personal lives, the lives of their families, friends, acquaintances and cause others to follow their examples and sin and fail, also.  Just a reminder, what is their reward?  "But there shall by no means enter it (Heaven) anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb's Book of Life." (Revelation 21:27)

Can you imagine our Lord saying to you or anyone else "Ok, you were living in sin but I'll overlook it" when He hears any of the following answers:

Jesus, Dr. James Dobson told me my that remarriage was ok because Dr. Swindoll told him that he felt that it was ok.

Or,  Jesus, I did nothing wrong because my Dad said I could do it.

How about, Jesus,
Dr. John MacArthur said I had to remain in my sin.

Or, my marriage had to be ok because I was a Church member.

Or last but far from the least, "
my marriage had to be ok because my Pastor was a remarried man!".

The word of God already gives us the answer, 2 Corinthians 5:10, "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad." 

Having said this, BEWARE, there are some who, against all they know and believe will -- out of fear or for personal gain -- do, say and promote ungodly positions and teachings in this life. 

Acts 20:30
"Also of your own selves shall men arise,
speaking perverse things,
to draw away disciples after them." 

When you and I are personally kneeling before our Lord and Saviour we will never have the privilege of shifting our personal responsibility for any decisions to someone else.  When asked by our Lord why we did -- or -- did not do, say or think something.


A few years ago I had a delightful telephone conversation with a very wise lady.  She was asking me about a young couple that were to be married and "did I know the young man's position concerning the permanence of marriage?"  Her comment was,

"Our Church doesn't allow divorce because we don't allow a Church member to sue another member in a court of law.  It's against the Word of God."

I thought to myself, "Amazing.  A Church that is on track with the Lord!"

My wife turned to me and said, "be sure to make a note to include it in your web site."

The following is the note that I made to myself:

1 Corinthians 6:1-8

"Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? [2] Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world?  And if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? [3] Know ye not that we shall judge angels?  How much more things that pertain to this life? [4] If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. [5] I speak to your shame.  Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you?  No, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? [6] But brother goes to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. [7] Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another.  Why do ye not rather take wrong? Why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? [8] No, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren."

I asked myself this question:

"How do Christians obtain a divorce?  Do they file an 'adversarial law suit' to obtain a divorce?  An 'adversarial law suit' in a civil court of law?"

Christians?  Pastors?  Church leaders?  What is our -- answer -- for this continuing practice among our peers and our Church membership?

The Word of God and I do have answer to this question.

 

Mark 10:2-12 
'"And some Pharisees came up to Him, testing Him, and began to question Him whether it was lawful for a man to divorce a wife. [3] And He answered and said to them, "What did Moses command you?" [4] And they said, "Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and SEND her away." [5] But Jesus said to them, "Because of your hardness of heart he wrote you this commandment. [6] But from the beginning of creation, God made them male and female. [7] For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother, [8] AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH; consequently they are no longer two, but one flesh. [9] What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate." [10] And in the house the disciples began questioning Him about this again. [11] And He said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her; [12] and if she herself divorces her husband and marries another man, she is committing adultery."'   (Please note, Our Lord made no "qualifiers / exception" clauses; divorce & remarry ='s adultery.)

Matthew 19:10 
'"The disciples said to Him, "If the relationship of the man with his wife is like this, it is better not to marry." (Please note, His disciples, the men who knew Him best, understood exactly what He said and what He meant and they took Him at His Word.  Do we?)

 

 

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"REASONS - Christian - HUSBANDS AND WIVES
HAVE GIVEN ME FOR THEIR REMARRIAGE"

Over the years I have been told the following ... by men and women ... "humanoids" who are just like you and me.   The statements below represent only a few of the countless throng of humanity, who remarried and now their conscience won't let them sleep at night and they are miserable when they think about their marriage during the day.  The following comments reveal deeply buried and clearly visible... spiritual fault lines:

**When I grew up I was taught that remarriage was a sin.  When I got married I believed that my marriage was "until death do us part."   That is what I was taught and that is what I believed.

**My spouse was a drunk [or abusive; a  lazy-good-for-nothing, etc.] so we got a divorce.  My friends told me that I hadn't done anything wrong and I certainly didn't deserve to be single the rest of my life.  I knew... my ... Pastor wouldn't remarry me... "so I found a preacher who would.  

**I'm a man and... I have needs.  And, I'm a woman and... I have needs.

Important note: The key thought for both men and women is that their primary reason for this response is that they had unmet sexual needs and passions; companionship was secondary in importance for men and companionship coupled with safety was secondary in importance for the women.  We need to face a key reality here because these responses were said by "Christian" men and women.  They were married and now they are divorced and dealing with fleshly lust, correct?  God's Word has their answer: Ephesians 2:1-3, "And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, [2] in which you once walked (before our salvation) according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, [3] among whom also we all once (before our salvation) conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath (before our salvation), just as the others."

The divorced Christian's solution: Galatians 5:16-17, "But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh. [17] For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please."  Remarriage isn't the solution, walking in the Spirit and obeying the Word of God is the solution! 

**I have kids to raise and it isn't fair that I should have to raise them all by myself no matter what anyone says.

**I didn't want a divorce but he / she left me, and, I am not going to live alone.

**My spouse was guilty of adultery so I got a divorce and remarried.

**After my divorce I didn't know how I would survive.  The Lord brought a wonderful Christian into my life and we got married.

**After my divorce I met a wonderful person.  I was sure that my Pastor wouldn't consider marrying us so, I was prepared to find a preacher who would.  Before I did that I went to my own Pastor and asked if he would marry us.  I was shocked when he told me that he had recently changed his mind concerning remarriage.  He performed the wedding for us.

These are only a few of the excuses that I have been given for why folks have remarried in violation of what they were taught and what they knew was true, all of which... create a great deal of confusion for themselves and others.  If your conscience just will not give you peace because you're guilty of doing one of the above just so you could get married while your divorced spouse is still living, you know exactly what you must do.

 


Matthew 7:24-27 
"Therefore whosoever hears these sayings of mine, and does them,
I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

[25]
 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house;
and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

[26]
 
And every one that hears these sayings of mine, and does not do them,
shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:

Verse: 27
and the rain descended, the floods came,
and the winds blew and beat on that house;
and it fell. And great was its fall."
 

 

 

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What is sin

James 4:17, "Therefore to him that knows to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
1 John 5:17a
, "All unrighteousness is sin: ......"
Romans 14:23b
, "...for whatsoever is not of faith is sin."

Commentary:
Within the soul of each and every person resides an intuitive knowledge [our conscience] of right and wrong.

Within the heart and soul of each and every "Truly Born Again" Christian not only resides an intuitive knowledge of right and wrong but more importantly, resides the Holy Spirit Who is the fullness of the Word of God.  

Any disobedience to either, our intuitive knowledge of right and wrong or to the Holy Spirit direction within is sin.  All sin, especially willful sin, deserves and does receive punishment / discipline.

 What are the Results of sin?

James 1:15, "Then when lust hath conceived, it brings forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, brings 
                      forth death."
Romans 6:23b, "For the wages of sin is death..."
John 9:31, "Now we know that God hears not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, 
                   and doeth hi will,  him he hears."

LESSON #1-  Unbeliever / unsaved, you know who you are
When any human being violates his conscience, a portion of his conscience is destroyed / dies creating a certain amount of guilt.  Repeating that conscience violating event becomes easier and easier because his conscience is being destroyed / dies one event at a time.  Eventually that individual is capable of sinning against himself and others without any remorse or guilt whatsoever.  He or she is truly a "dead man walking."

FYI:  As you read this we must certainly agree that there must be a real "Hell".   Why, because we hear about Hell in conversations wherever we go especially if you go to bars, sporting events and alcoholic driven parties and events.  Sin creates two obvious problems, first we look at ourselves in the mirror and or think about our lives and we ask, "What's wrong with me?  Why am I doing these things and living this way?  Answer, we're killing the good and respectable attributes that resides within us through sin.  Second, we realize that we're out of control.  My life is controlled by the very things that disgust me about myself.

Yes, there is a real Hell and all unsaved sinners eventually die and reside there for all eternity.  The wages of sin is that while I'm living this life I'm destroying everything that used to be good about me and around me.  And, eventually I physically die and reside in Hell.  

LESSON #2- The "Truly Born Again" Christian 
We, the "Truly Born Again" Christian, are in serious peril when we willfully sin because we not only violate our intuitive consciousness [our conscience] but we violate the still quiet voice of objection from the Holy Spirit, within.  We sear / harden our conscience, grieve / discourage the Holy Spirit [Ephesians 4:30] and despise Our Saviour [1 Thessalonians 4:7-8].  We are literally committing Spiritual, physical and emotional suicide. 

FYI:  When we sin, continue in any sin and refuse to repent  [confess and stop the sin] our God no longer listens to our prayers. CHRISTIAN, think about this!  What can happen in our lives and in the lives of those we love and or are personally responsible for, our children, wives, husbands, grandchildren, employees etc. if our prayers are not being answered?  Unanswered prayers doesn't only result in our Spiritual death [and possibly even our physical death, also] but can actually result in the Spiritual and physical deaths of others.  We hear too often about the abstract loss of eventual rewards in Heaven.  What about the here and now and the hours, days, months and years that we are yet going to live? No answered prayers?!  Meaning no positive directions from our lord in our lives.  I.e., because of unrepentant sin am I actually doing and living where my lord wants me to live and work?  Or, am I doing my own thing, totally without his divine protection and blessings?  Truly, we would be a "spiritually dead man walking".  All too often Christians equate financial well-being, career advancements, good health etc. as blessings from our Heavenly Father.

What is the Solution for sin?

Acts 3:19,
"Repent [means to stop what you are doing...my addition] ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord"

God's solution:

Romans 6:1, "What shall we say then?  Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?"
Romans 6:15, "What then?  Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace?  
                         Certainly not!"
Ephesians 4:28-31,
"Let him who stole steal no longer, but rather let him labor, working with his 
hands what is good, that he may have something to give him who has need. [29] Let no corrupt word proceed out of your mouth, but what is good for necessary edification, that it may impart grace to the hearers. [30] And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. [31]  Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice."

 

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SECOND SECTION

"SOME VERY SUBTLE ERRORS CAUSING CONFUSION"

"Subtle because they are being taught by some very influential ministers
and
reveal some very deeply buried spiritual fault lines."

2 - A
"SALVATION COVERS
THIS SIN"

Marriage, divorce and remarriage prior to salvation:

I suspect that the greatest amount of confusion is caused by Bible expositors and Christian ministry leaders, i.e. Dr. Swindoll and Dr. Dobson etc. who preach, teach and write, "If divorce is not covered by salvation then it is the only sin that is not covered by the shed blood of Jesus Christ."  Both of these men know that divorce isn't the issue, it's the remarriage following that divorce while a divorced spouse is yet living that's at issue!  Think about it, isn't Dr. Swindoll and Dr. Dobson actually teaching that

"divorce and the following remarriage while the divorced spouse is yet living is the only sin that God doesn't require the sinner to "repent / stop / cease from committing"?

Please don't get angry -- with me -- and close your heart and mind.  Think about the following situations and compare them to the sin of remarriage adultery.  Let's compare sin with sin.  Before salvation:

If I'm a liar, I must repent and apologize and somehow repair the damage caused by my lie,
Correct?

If I'm a thief, I must repent and make restitution, correct?

If I'm having an adulterous affair with someone, I must repent and stop the relationship.
Correct?

If I made my living by extortion, I must repent and make restitution, correct?
Correct?

I am living in an adulterous and sinful  marriage but, Dr. Swindoll, Dr. Dobson and Dr. MacArthur say I don't have to repent, I don't have to stop the relationship and I can remain in my sin, correct?  Any other sin I must repent of and stop the sin, but not this sin, correct?

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The following is the most dangerous
church family "positional statement" that I have ever read in my entire life!!
I've heard it said but I had never actually seen it in writing. 

Recently (added 6-25-2010) the "Executive" Pastor of a North Carolina church emailed their church family position statement concerning  marriage, divorce and  divorce & remarriage.  The following is a direct cut and paste from their doctrinal statement and is by far the most dangerous statement that I have ever read in my life:

Their Pastors teach:
     (church family statement)  
    "Christians that have remarried after a non-biblical divorce need to repent of
      their past sin, but are not obligated or free to correct their past error by
      divorcing their current spouse"
      (the red and underline highlight is my addition)
         
       FYI:
You need to know that this church ministry doesn't provide a single verse
                 of Scripture for their new doctrine.
I have asked their Executive
                 Pastor for their Scriptural foundation for this heresy and he hasn't
                 provided those Scriptures. 


God's command as written to the Church, to you and me is
     Romans 6:1-2, "What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that
     grace may abound
? [2] Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live
     any longer in it?"

That statement is the most dangerous statement that I have ever read in my life because:

1) the authors of their church family doctrine are knowingly and willfully changing
    the very command of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ!

2)  The logical progression of sinful mankind (the sin nature) is that  if the sin of
      remarriage doesn't have to be stopped, then my sin doesn't have to be stopped
      either.

It can be rightly said that if adulterers are allowed membership and leadership status, how can you exclude the homosexuals and any other "alternate lifestyle living arrangement" individual from membership and leadership?!  (See the congressional movement concerning this issue and what it is going to mean to the 501c3 church (church ministry and property tax status) and membership tax exemptions  -- Link>>> immediate  action.

          The Scriptural proof for point #2 is found in
           A) Ecclesiastes 8:11,
"Because the sentence against an evil work is not
                 executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set 
                 in them to do evil."
                 Note the progression:
                a) an evil work, singular progresses to
                b) the sons of men, plural!

      
          This is a parallel truth to:
            B)1 Corinthians 5:6, " Your glorying is not good. Do you not know that 
                 a little leaven leavens the whole lump?"
                  Note the progression:
                a) a little leaven, a small amount progresses to
                b) leavens the whole, all becomes leavened! 

Readers, the words "Repent" and "Repentance" are found in the Word of God a minimum 110 times.  The combination of the terms repent, repentance and turn from are found in the Scriptures a minimum of 181 timesEach and every time these words are found they mean that what ever is in reference is to "cease / stop" immediately.  When our Lord says to you and me to repent, He means stop, stop and don't ask questions just stop it.  To teach that someone "needs to repent of their past sin, but are not obligated or free to correct " is a very dangerous heresy!!  

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Reader, be sure to know that God fully understands all of the underlying issues for the reasons given leading up to a divorce and a remarriage.  Divorce is forgivable.  I'll repeat, Divorce is forgivable!  Divorce isn't the issue here, the issue is the following remarriage while a divorced spouse is yet living -- is the issue.  When it is taught that "Salvation and the blood of Christ covers this sin" without the necessity for that person living in adultery to repent, stop and remove themselves from that sin, they are actually teaching:

(1) salvation not only changes the person...

      they are ALSO TEACHING that

(2) salvation corrects the adulterous situation that is created by a remarriage when 
     the divorced spouse is still living (and yet they call this remarriage, sin).

If they are correct, then I will repeat, divorce and remarriage while a divorced spouse is yet living is the only sin that God doesn't require the sinner to "repent / stop / cease from committing the sin" because he has accepted Jesus Christ as His Saviour.  Interesting, not correct, just interesting.

Because they are teaching the above -- based on the many conversations that Mary and I have had with countless numbers of men and women -- THE FOLLOWING is happening over-and-over again:

We were not saved -- Born Again -- at the time of my divorce and remarriage.  We truly believed that when we accepted Jesus Christ as Saviour that made our 2nd. [3rd., 4th. etc] marriage ... ok.  We were taught that Salvation corrected our sin.

Dear reader, according to the Word of God, has Dr. Swindoll, Dr. Dobson, Dr. MacArthur  and many others deceived you?

And those of you who are reading this who were "Born Again" at the time of your divorce and following remarriage, you who said to yourself:  "Yes, I know remarriage is a sin but all I have to do is confess it as a sin after I'm remarried and -- I will be forgiven."  No, you have knowingly -- lied to and deceived yourself, Romans 1:18, "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness."

Because our Lord and Saviour doesn't enumerate [give complete lists] each and every time He mentions "a" sin or sins in the Word of God, for the sake of clarity, let's expand the Romans 7:2-3 sin of adultery to include other sins that each and every reader knows
must be confessed and repented of:

"For the married woman is bound by law to her husband while he is living; but if her husband dies, she is released from the law concerning the husband. [3] So then if, while her husband is living, she is joined to another man, she shall be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is not an adulteress, though she is joined to another man."


God's Word taught the local Churches in Rome, Italy

My addition for clarity, "Even though a man or woman is a member of the Church in Rome *while her husband is living, she is joined to another man, she shall be called an adulteress."

Again, for clarity, wouldn't the following also be true?

* A Church member who daily kills others shall be called a murderer;

* A Church member who daily steals from others shall be called a thief;

* A Church member who lives by lies shall be called a liar;

* A Church member who daily preys on children shall be called a pedophile;

* A Church member who is not married and is daily and weekly sexually active with
   others shall be called an immoral fornicator


*
A
Church
member who is sexually active with members of their own sex shall be
   called
reprobate and a homosexual or lesbian;  NOTE: Sad but true, in some    
   of today's -- so called -- churches these folks are called "alternative lifestyle"  
   pastors, staff and members. 


*
A
Church member who kills her unborn child by having an abortion shall be called a
  
murderer; 

Do you really believe that any fundamental, Bible teaching Church family would allow any of the above to continue as members of their Church? 


The following is what the Word of God teaches

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, [10] nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God." 

1 Corinthians 7:2 
"Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband."

Galatians 5:19-21 
"Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, [20] Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, [21] Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God." 

Revelations 21:8 
"But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." 

Revelations 21:27 
"and nothing unclean and no one who practices abomination and lying, shall ever come into it, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life."

QUESTION:  Can you think of any other situation in life that -- simply because you have now become a Christian -- Pastors, radio ministers and Evangelists will preach that the sinful activity that you are engaged in at the moment of your salvation is... no longer ...sinful?  For example, the professional thief?  If he accepts Christ as Saviour, being a thief is no longer a sin?  How about the pedophiles?  When these folks accept Jesus Christ as Saviour, their sexual molestation is no longer sinful?  Or the serial rapist?  How about the individual (man, woman or child) who walks into your church service as a Columbian or Mexican drug cartel member selling drugs and active in today's human slave trade?  Consider the businessman or woman, the pastor, the secretary, the brick layer, the carpenter, the school teacher, the housewife, the door-to-door salesman, plumber etc. that is daily and weekly active in an "adulterous relationship?"  When these folks accept Jesus Christ as their Saviour, are their sins no longer... sin?  They can continue in their sinful activities and become members and leaders of your Church Family? 

Over the past 30 to 40 years a number of very influential Pastors and Christian radio ministers who teach and preach that, yes, even though remarriage while a divorced spouse is yet living is sin (adultery), yet, they do not have to repent of that adulterous relationship, these men also continue to teach the following:

2 Corinthians 5:17, "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

That 2 Corinthians 5:17 teaches Christ and His salvation... is the power ...for the "truly," Born Again Christian" to overcome any and all sins and temptations isn't even up for debate or discussion!!

These men are correct when they teach that according to 2 Corinthians 5:17, and many many other Scriptures in the Word of God, when a person is a "Truly Born Again Christian" he is a new creation in Christ Jesus.  Every thing in his... inner man..., his heart and soul, become new as well as his relationship to God.  As a "truly," Born Again Christian, he is a son of God and he now has the power within to walk away from sin, no longer continue in sin!!

John 1:12,  "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name."

1 John 3:2,  "Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is."

In fact, as a "Truly Born Again Christian", we are more than just sons of God, we are heirs of God and joint heirs with Jesus Christ Who is our Saviour, our Lord and our brother.

Romans 8:17,  "And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together."

They are also correct when they teach that as a "truly," Born Again Christian," all of his sins are forgiven him.  As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us." What isn't true and where these men are in serious error ... and ...what these men are overlooking is the reality and fact that the "life's circumstances" that these new "truly" Born Again Christians find themselves in at the moment and time of their salvation... do not and has not changed ...simply because of their conversion to Christ.  One of the most prominent of today's radio ministers has written a booklet which includes Ephesians 2:1-7 as one of his primary arguments that salvation covers it all. Please notice what Ephesians 2:2-3 teaches,

[2] Wherein in time past you walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience:  [3] Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others."

Notice the new power a "Truly Born Again Christian" now enjoys because he goes from being powerless over sin and his sinful friendships, "time past", to having a new and lasting internal power "over" and "in" all of life's circumstances.  He now has the courage to change his lifestyle and relationships. Satin no longer has the power of control over his life. He no longer remains a captive or prisoner "to" or "in" life's circumstances.  The "Truly Born Again Christian" is able to make the hard decisions and carry out those hard decisions from the moment of salvation until the moment of his death.  FYI: Simply because you and I are Truly born Again Christians doesn't make any of those hard decisions any less painful!!

The following are some examples:

*The thief on the cross Luke 23:39-43, "And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed
  on him, saying, If you are Christ, save yourself and us. [40] But the other answering rebuked him
  saying, Don't you fear God, seeing you are in the same condemnation? [41] And we indeed justly
  for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man has done nothing amiss. [42] And he
  said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when you come into your kingdom. [43] And Jesus said unto
  him,  Verily I say unto thee, today you will be with me in paradise."

*Peter, powerless before his conversion and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit  
 
Luke 22:31-34,
  "And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you,
 that he may sift you as wheat
[32]  But I have prayed for you, that your faith will not fail: and 
 
when thou art converted,
 strengthen thy brethren. [33] And he [Peter...my addition] said
 unto him, Lord, I am ready to go with thee, both into prison, and to death. [34] And he said,
  I tell thee, Peter, the cock shall not crow this day, before that thou shall deny three times that
 you knows me
."

** Now see Peter, full of power, ...after his conversion and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit Acts 3:12-17, "So when Peter saw it, he responded to the people: "Men of Israel, why do you marvel at this?  Or why look so intently at us, as though by our own power or godliness we had made this man walk? [13] The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our fathers, glorified His Servant Jesus, whom you delivered up and denied in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let Him go. [14] But you denied the Holy One and the Just, and asked for a murderer to be granted to you, [15] and killed the Prince of life, whom God raised from the dead, of which we are witnesses. [16]  And His name, through faith in His name, has made this man strong, whom you see and know. Yes, the faith which comes through Him has given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all. [17] Yet now, brethren, I know that you did it in ignorance, as did also your rulers. [18] But those things which God foretold by the mouth of all His prophets, that the Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled. [19]  Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord"

*All of the disciples, powerless before the indwelling power of the Holy Spirit
  
Matthew 26:56, "But all this was done that the Scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled.
   Then all the disciples betrayed Him and fled."

**Peter John and Luke, full of power after Holy Spirit took residence within them (which happen to all Truly born Again Christians immediately upon their salvation) Acts 5:25-29, "So one came and told them, saying, "Look, the men whom you put in prison are standing in the temple and teaching the people!" [26] Then the captain went with the officers and brought them without violence, for they feared the people, lest they should be stoned. [27] And when they had brought them, they set them before the council. And the high priest asked them, [28] saying, "Did we not strictly command you not to teach in this name? And look, you have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this Man's blood on us!" [29] But Peter and the other apostles answered and said: "We ought to obey God rather than men."

*Let's get practical and consider the person who is guilty of murder and is sitting in the courtroom listening to his defense lawyer defend all of his lies.  Later, while he is in his holding cell outside of the courtroom, he is overwhelmed with the truth of his activities and cries out to Jesus Christ for salvation and... becomes a "truly," Born Again Christian.

**Questions Does this new, truly born Again Christian continue to sit in the court room and allow his defense attorney to continue defending all of  those previous lies before the judge and witnesses in the following days and weeks?  Or, at some time does he gather up his new courage in Christ Jesus, stand to his feet and announce to the judge and witnesses that he is a new, Born Again Christian and that the trial must now stop because he wishes to plead "guilty as charged" for murder and... face the penalty for his sin.  Using the same reasoning, how about a rapist, a thief, a pedophile, a spouse abuser, a drunk, a drug addict, a forger etc. going through the judicial system?  At some time do they gather up their new courage in Christ Jesus, stand to their feet and announce to the judge and witnesses that they are a new, Born Again Christian and that the trial must now stop because he wishes to plead "guilty as charged"?  What did the thief on the cross do as our example

**Some more questions:  How about the businessman, pastor, secretary, brick
     layer, carpenter, school teacher, house wife, door-to-door salesman,
     plumber etc. that is caught in the web of an ongoing "adulterous relationship?"

What constitutes an adulterous relationship?   Is it the act of having sex with someone other than his or her spouse or, is it something else?

When they become a "truly," new, Born Again Christian is their adultery simply going to swept under the bloody blanket of salvation so they can continue their adulterous sexual activities?

  Or, must they stop the activity of sexual adultery?

God in His Word calls any remarriage...that follows a divorce to someone other than the divorced spouse...while the divorced spouse is still living - ADULTERY.  And, God calls it adultery because it is the activity of having sex with someone other than the spouse of "the one flesh relationship that was established when you married and consummated your marriage with your first spouse."  And, it is the activity of having sex with someone other than "the spouse of your original vows" while that spouse is still living.

Just how is this activity of sexual adultery different from all other adulterous activities?

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OVERLOOKED ISSUE
 
"SALVATION IS FREE,
THE CHRISTIAN LIFE IS NOT FREE

In this particular situation,
they are not counting the cost of the Christian life.

"Salvation is free, the Christian life is not"

Romans 7: 1-4 is written to the churches of Rome, Italy.  Because these folks were new converts to Christianity, some of them had married and divorced and remarried before their salvation.  Remember, these were the very first Judaic Christian Churches that had been established.  Recall Acts chapter two and 3,000 people that accepted Christ and joined the Church?  Those conversions were the norm.  Here in the Church at Rome were converts from Judaism who were very knowledgeable of the Old Testament Laws.  Our Lord and Saviour is teaching them that to accept Jesus Christ as personal Lord and Saviour, Verse:4, they died to the Old Testament Laws.  Those laws were no longer effective in their lives for salvation.  Those laws were dead to them - for salvation.  The lesson taught is:  the law was dead... not divorced!  They could not just divorce... the Old Testament Laws and then... marry Jesus Christ as Saviour. 

Because the truth concerning the Law was so very well known to the Jewish membership in the Churches of Rome, our Lord and Saviour used the Apostle Paul to remind them of the foundational, Old Testament truth concerning marriage which was..."you can not be married to another until the death of your spouse"...to teach the foundational truth concerning salvation which is... you can not accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour unless everything else that you trusted in for your salvation... is dead.

Please read the following.

Romans 7:1-4, "Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he lives? [2] For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he lives; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. [3] So then if, while her husband lives, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. [4] Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to Him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God."

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"The ERROR of NOT COUNTING the 
COST ASPECT
of
DISCIPLESHIP
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Salvation is free.  The Christian life is not free!!

While Christ walked on this earth, He spoke to the multitudes, healed many of their sick,
cast out demons
, fed the multitude, turned drinking water to wine, raised the dead,
and etc. while introducing all
to His ministry.

More important to our Christian walk and life are His answers to the questions
that the multitudes and His disciples asked.
Folks, His answers are important.
Don't simply read His answers, think His answers through!!

"BEFORE"
Christ went to the cross,
and,
 "before" the Church was established
Christ challenged all who would listen to COUNT THE COST OF DISCIPLESHIP
"BEFORE" MAKING A DECISION!

Jesus Christ never kept the high cost of discipleship...a secret!!

QUESTION: Before Christ went to the cross and before the Church was established, why did He say 

"But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven. [34] Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth.  I did not come to bring peace but a sword."? [Matthew 10:33-34]

AND,

QUESTION: Did Jesus really mean that the cost of discipleship would be

*Luke 21:14a & 16, "Settle it therefore in your hearts... [16] And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolk, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death."

Christ was asking, are you ready to have everyone you trust and love...hate, betray and kill...you?  It's the high cost of discipleship!

*Luke 14:26, "If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple."

Important note: We are not expected or commanded by Christ to hate our loved ones simply because we have become a Christian.  All of the commentaries agree that this is a comparison and-or-a contrast between the degree of love that we have for our loved ones in comparison with our degree of love for Jesus Christ.  Stated one way, our love for our loved ones pales in comparison.  Stated another way, any loved one who would attempt to come between us and the Lord would lose because we love Him greater.

THE COST of COMMITMENT and discipleship:

THE SWORD:  This is the personal cost of loyalty.  Christ said, "to be My disciple, you must obey Me and follow Me".  Loyalty to Christ or loyalty to family?  You cannot allow your father, your mother, your brothers, your sisters or even your own previous desires and goals to get in the way of obedience and discipleship.  It's the high cost of discipleship!!

NOT PEACE:  Remember, these new disciples were converts from Judaism and heathenisms to Salvation by faith in Jesus Christ.  Just as is still true in many Moslem communities and nations today, when someone accepts Christ as Saviour and Lord of their lives it means losing their entire family and human support system.  In fact, your family and friends will either hold a funeral service... accounting you as dead or.............they will actually kill you.  Christ said, count the cost.  Christ still expects us to count the cost... even in America ...when we consider salvation.  It's the high cost of discipleship!!

There is no such thing as easy believism, and low to no spiritual investment with expected high returns.   Salvation is free but... the Christian life ...is not free by any stretch of the imagination. It's the high cost of discipleship!!

*Luke 14:27, "And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple."

THE COST of COMMITMENT:  Throughout the Roman Empire, criminals bearing their cross through the heart of their cities to the place of their crucifixion symbolized that the sentence and punishment of death was justifiable and correct.  It was a public admission and confession.  Christ used that symbol to tell those who were considering following Him as a Disciple that they were expected to publicly confess Christ and walk with Him - even to their own death.  It's the high cost of discipleship!!

There is no such thing as easy believism and painless repentance with low to no spiritual investment with expected high returns.

*Luke 14:28-30, "For which of you, intending to build a tower, does not sit down first and count the cost, whether he has enough to finish it--[29] lest, after he has laid the foundation, and is not able to finish, all who see it begin to mock him, [30]  saying, 'This man began to build and was not able to finish'."

THE COST of COMMITMENT:  Using the example of a builder, Christ emphasizes the necessity of counting the actual costs involved in the construction before breaking ground and pouring the foundations.  The builder was expected to count the cost and be willing to pay the full price to complete the construction.  Are you and I willing to pay the full price to be a Disciple?  It's the high cost of discipleship!!

There is no such thing as no to low investment spirituality with expected high returns.  Salvation is free but... the Christian life ...is not free by any stretch of the imagination.  

*Luke 14:31-32, "Or what king, going to make war against another king, does not sit down first and consider whether he is able with ten thousand to meet him who comes against him with twenty thousand?  [32] Or else, while the other is still a great way off, he sends a delegation and asks conditions of peace."

THE COST of COMMITMENT:  The Christian disciple can only have peace in his inner being after he has been willing to "give up...Vs:32" personal ambitions.  Total submission to the King of kings and Lord of lords.  It's the high cost of discipleship!!

*Isaiah 64:8, "But now, O Lord, thou art our father; we are the clay,
and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand." 

*Luke 14:33,  "So likewise, whoever of you does not forsake all that he has
cannot be My disciple
."

The songwriter, Adelaide A. Pollard, wrote:
"Have Thine own way, Lord!  Have Thine own way!
Thou art the Potter; I am the clay.
Mold me and make me, after Thy will.
While I am waiting, yielded and still.
Have Thine own way, Lord!  Have Thine own way!
Hold o're my being absolute sway!
Fill with Thy spirit till all shall see,
Christ only, always living in me."

THE COST of COMMITMENT:  Joshua 24:15, "And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord."  It's the high cost of discipleship!!

*Mark 1:16-20, "And as He walked by the Sea of Galilee, He saw Simon and Andrew his brother casting a net into the sea; for they were fishermen. [17] Then Jesus said to them, "Follow Me, and I will make you become fishers of men." [18] They immediately left their nets and followed Him. [19] When He had gone a little farther from there, He saw James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother, who also were in the boat mending their nets. [120] And immediately He called them, and they left their father Zebedee (their father) in the boat with the hired servants, and went after Him. 

THE COST of COMMITMENT:  The Christian disciple can only have peace in his inner being after he has been willing to "give up...Vss: 17 & 20, personal ambitions and family in total submission to Jesus Christ our Saviour and Lord.  It's the high cost of discipleship!!

Luke 9:57-62:

*Vs: 57, "And it came to pass, that, as they went in the way, a certain man said unto him, Lord, I will follow You wherever You go."  And, Christ's warning, vs:58,
"Jesus said unto him, "Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay His head".

THE COST of COMMITMENT: Are we willing to give up creature comforts, for Christ?  It may be our high cost of discipleship!!

*Vs:59,  "And He said unto another, "Follow me"But he said, Lord, permit me first to go and bury my father.  And, Christ's demand,  vs:60, "Jesus said unto him, 'Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God'".

THE COST of COMMITMENTAre we willing to give up our family, for Christ?  Are we even willing to allow the family and friends that we love most dearly and desire their respect and admiration for us most highly to think evil of us as we obey the Lord and His Word?   It's the high cost of discipleship!!

*Vs: 61,  "And another also said, Lord, I will follow Thee; but let me first go bid them farewell, which are at home at my house.  And, Christ's demand, vs:62, "And Jesus said unto him, 'No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God'".

THE COST of COMMITMENTIf, after we have decided to be a Disciple, who will be more important to us, family, friends or Jesus?   It's the high cost of discipleship!!

*Mark 10:7-12, "For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, [8] and the two shall become one flesh; so then they are no longer two, but one flesh. [9] Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate." [10] In the house His disciples also asked Him again about the same matter.  And, Christ's warning,   [11] So He said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. [12] And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery."

THE COST of COMMITMENT:  Mark wrote exactly what he heard Jesus Christ say while He was gathering and training disciples for His ministry.  Christ said (in our vernacular), "Men, if any of you standing here divorces your wife and remarries, what you did will be an act of adultery and... you will be disqualified from being my disciple?"  AND, isn't Christ saying, to them and to us today, "count the cost of discipleship and the Christian life?"  What is the cost of discipleship going to be to anyone standing and listening to Christ?  And those who are already divorced and remarried or...married to a divorced spouse, read - Ezra chapters 9 & 10.  The Christian Church is not without an Old Testament example for the remedy of divorce and remarriage.  The remedy for an adulterous remarriage has a very high cost of repentance (turning away from) that is demanded of our discipleship!!

Christ's warning:  
*
Luke 16:18, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced from her husband commits adultery."

THE COST of COMMITMENT:  Luke wrote exactly what he heard Jesus Christ say while He was gathering and training disciples for His ministry.  Isn't he saying, "Men, if any of you standing here divorces your wife and remarries another, you will be committing adultery, and, you will be disqualified from being my disciple?"  And, if you marry a woman who is is divorced, you are marrying into adultery.  Isn't Christ saying to them, "count the cost of discipleship and the Christian life?"  What is the cost of discipleship going to be for anyone standing and listening to Christ?  Especially those who are contemplating getting a divorce and those who have already married a divorced individual?   Please read - Ezra chapters 9 & 10.  The Christian Church is not without an Old Testament example for the remedy of divorce and remarriage.  The remedy for an adulterous remarriage has a very high cost of repentance (turning away from) that is demanded of our discipleship!!

Christ's warning:
*Matthew 5:32, "But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality CAUSES her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery."

THE COST of COMMITMENT:  Matthew wrote what he heard Jesus Christ say while He was gathering and training disciples for His ministry.  Isn't Christ saying, "Men, if any of you standing here divorces your wife and remarries, it is an act of adultery and... you will be disqualified from being my disciple?"  Isn't He saying, "count the cost of discipleship and the Christian life?"  What is the cost of discipleship going to be to anyone standing and listening to Christ who is already divorced and remarried or...married to a divorced spouse?

 Please read - Ezra chapter
s 9 & 10.  The Christian Church is not without an Old Testament example for the remedy of divorce and remarriage.  The remedy for an adulterous remarriage has a very high cost of repentance (turning away from) that is demanded of our discipleship!!

Statement:  I am only too familiar with human nature because I to am human.  I suspect that many of you have not looked up and read Ezra Chapters 9 and 10The Christian Church is not without an Old Testament example for the remedy of today's divorce and remarriage. You and I have God's example.  I will give you God's remedy: (not the entire chapters)

The Sin:  Disobedience to the Command of God

Ezra 9:1-4, "Now when these things had been completed, the princes approached me, saying, "The people of Israel and the priests and the Levites have not separated themselves from the peoples of the lands, according to their abominations, those of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Jebusites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians, and the Amorites. [2] "For they have taken some of their daughters as wives for themselves and for their sons, so that the holy race has intermingled with the peoples of the lands; indeed, the hands of the princes and the rulers have been foremost in this unfaithfulness." [3] And when I heard about this matter, I tore my garment and my robe, and pulled some of the hair from my head and my beard, and sat down appalled. [4] Then everyone who trembled at the words of the God of Israel on account of the unfaithfulness of the exiles gathered to me, and I sat appalled until the evening offering. 

My commentary:
The Old Testament Saints were commanded to not marry any individual that was not a Covenant individual (Jew / Hebrew), an Israelite.  To do so is an abomination to God and would bring condemnation on them personally and upon their nation.  We, the New Testament Christian / Saint are instructed to not divorce, divorce and remarry, or, marry a divorced individual. We are commanded to not commit adultery. To do so is an abomination to our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.  All sins, large and small, must be repented of.  Not simply confessed as a sin (when we did it) but as an ongoing sin that must be stopped at all cost, personal and otherwise.

The Remedy:  After confession, repent and obey the Command of God by stopping the sin

Ezra 10:2-5, "And Shecaniah the son of Jehiel, one of the sons of Elam, answered and said to Ezra, "We have been unfaithful to our God, and have married foreign women from the peoples of the land; yet now there is hope for Israel in spite of this. [3] "So now let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives and their children, according to the counsel of my lord and of those who tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law. [4] "Arise! For this matter is your responsibility, but we will be with you; be courageous and act." [5] Then Ezra rose and made the leading priests, the Levites, and all Israel, take oath that they would do according to this proposal; so they took the oath.

My commentary:
The Old Testament Saint that was married to a wife against the Command of God was to divorce his wife, send his wife and the children born to them back to the family and nation of her birth.  And he was not to remarry.  We are commanded by our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, to not marry into any adulterous marriage.  We, the 21st Century Christians are privileged to have His commands clearly written to us in many, many versions (and all of the various version's texts agree) so we are without excuse.  Does our Christ, Who is the Creator God, Lord and King of Kings of the Old Testament, expect us to do anything less to remedy our adulterous marriages? 

Ezra 10:7-8, "And they made a proclamation throughout Judah and Jerusalem to all the exiles, that they should assemble at Jerusalem, [8] and that whoever would not come within three days, according to the counsel of the leaders and the elders, all his possessions should be forfeited and he himself excluded from the assembly of the exiles."

My commentary:
Any Israelite who chose to disobey the Commands of God was to be  removed (excommunicated) from the nation and fellowship of their nation's people.  What are we commanded?

Marriage:
Romans 7:2-3, "For the married woman is bound by law to her husband while he is living; but if her husband dies, she is released from the law concerning the husband. [3] So then if, while her husband is living, she is joined to another man, she shall be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is not an adulteress, though she is joined to another man."

1 Corinthians 7:39, "A wife is bound as long as her husband lives; but if her husband is dead, she is free to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord." 

Church Membership:
1 Corinthians 5:11-13,
"But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he should be an immoral person (isn't adultery immorality?), or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler-- not even to eat with such a one. [12] For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? [13] But those who are outside, God judges. Remove the wicked man from among yourselves."

Communion:
1 Corinthians11:27-30, "Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, shall be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord. [28] But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup. [29] For he who eats and drinks, eats and drinks judgment to himself, if he does not judge the body rightly. [30] "For this reason many among you are weak and sick, and a number sleep."

My commentary:
The Word of God is clear, anyone "named a brother / Christian" (Vs:5) who chooses to disobey the Commands of Christ in His Word and remain in an adulterous marriage is to be  removed (excommunicated) from the membership of the local Church family and from fellowship with other Believers.  It's a command and not a suggestion.

QUESTIONS: If you and I are asked, are we presently paying the high cost for commitment, what would our answer be?  And, what examples would we give demonstrating the high cost of our commitment?

Reader, this isn't works salvation, this is SALVATION THAT WORKS. {For you that are studying the Salvation page and answering the questions, click hereto return to that page]

 

 

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"The ERROR of NOT COUNTING the COST"
aspect of
"OBEDIENCE."

Salvation is free.  The Christian life is not free!!

"AFTER"
Christ went to the cross and "after" the Church was established,
Christ challenged the new Christians to 
COUNT THE COST OF
the Christian life!

Church membership and the high cost of discipleship.
Jesus Christ never kept the high cost of obedience...a secret!!

It was decision Sunday in Rome!

In counting the cost of discipleship after the Church was established, what did Jesus Christ say to the Church members who, by virtue of their membership in the Churches in Rome and Corinth, said they were His Disciple?  Remember, membership in the church was based on confession of sin, repentance from sin, public confession of their personal faith in Jesus Christ for salvation and then, public baptism by immersion in the local river, mud hole, etc.  One Sunday the following took place in the Church at Rome:

As the Church members in Rome, Italy gathered to hear what their Pastor was going to read, they heard him read the following. Try to put yourself in their situation by imagining going to your own church for worship and...when your Pastor stood to preach he said,

"Members.  I received the following letter from the Apostle Paul and he asked that I read it to you.  I'll begin reading at Romans chapter 7, verse:1 and read through verse:4.  "Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he lives? [2] For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he lives; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. [3] So then if, while her husband lives, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. [4] Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God."

You, like they, are a member of your church by confessing Jesus Christ as your Saviour, which was followed by believer's baptism and church membership:

**Did being a confessed believer in Christ and a baptized member of the Church at Rome change what God said, through the Apostle Paul, that all people who are divorced and remarried while their divorced spouse was living is... adultery?  Did being a confessed believer in Christ and a baptized member of the Church alter that fact?

**Did being a confessed believer in Christ and a baptized member of the Church and confessing before God and the Church that you agree with God that divorce and remarriage... while the divorced spouse is still living is adultery...will that confession and agreement alter the fact that the divorced spouse is still living?"

**Did being a confessed believer in Christ and a baptized member of the Church and confessing before God and the Church that you agree with God that divorce and remarriage... while the divorced spouse is still living is adultery...will that confession and agreement alter the fact that the marriage is still an adulterous marriage?"

**Even though they were a confessed believer in Christ and a baptized member of the Church, if the divorced spouse is still living after confessing before God and the Church that you agree with God that a divorced person is not to remarry while their divorced spouse is still... living ...what does the Word of God call that marriage?  The correct answer is Romans 7:3, " So then if, while her husband lives, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress."

It was decision Sunday in the Church at Rome and the altar call to them and to us is:

**Are Christians supposed to remain in adultery?  Read Romans chapter 6.  Contextually, it would appear that God was preparing those Church members at Rome for some very hard decision making because chapter 6 is before chapter 7.  Students, because chapter 6... is before ...chapter 7 by overlooking this simple little fact, many Christians, Pastors and Christian leaders have made huge ERRORS in their theology and in their lives.  Notice that Chapter 6 begins with verses:1-2,  "What shall we say then?  Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? [2] God forbid.  How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?"

Chapter 7
is but a continuation of chapter 6 which is a continuation of the opening warnings found in Romans 1:18, "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness" and Romans 1:29-32, "being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, [30] backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, [31] undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; [32]  who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them."

At the top of this page are the reasons given by people just like you and me for their remarriages...against the counsel of their parents, friends, Pastors and the Word of God.  I'm not being harsh or judgmental when I say to you that these reasons are examples of people "who hold the truth in unrighteousness" and are "disobedient to parents, etc." and "who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them."

You know that what I have said on this page is the truth because I've copied the Word of God within the text and context..  The choice is the same for this sin as any other sin and the local Church responsibility is the same concerning this sin as any other sin.  As a father, Pastor, Christian and friend it is my responsibility to tell people to stop their sin, what ever that sin is.  The responsibility is theirs and theirs alone to obey or disobey.  If they make the wrong choice, as a father, Pastor, Christian and friend it is my stewardship ...in obedience to Christ... to take what ever steps are necessary to discipline that brother or sister in Christ and / or distance myself from that brother or sister in the Lord 1 Corinthians 5:11, " But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat."  My obedience is mine and mine alone.  My obedience is not dependent upon an executive committee, a family council, an Elders and Deacons meeting, the decision of a denomination or association of Pastors.  You and I will stand... all alone ...before our Lord and Saviour when we give our personal account.

Our obedience and stewardship is not, I repeat... is not ...a popularity contest!

**Are adulterous people supposed to remain in the Church membership?  Read 1 Corinthians 5:6-13.

**Does the New Testament Church have an Old Testament example for a solution?  Yes!!  Read Ezra chapter 10, all of it.   Please Note:  Ezra is Old Testament and is the harshness of the law.  Under grace, God extends some mercy to us that was not always extended to the Old Testament saints.  Remaining in an adulterous marriage is not a part of the New Testament grace -- package.

It's the high cost of repentance (turning away from sin) that is demanded by discipleship!!  Ministry, strength, courage, life's provisions and Christian creativity is... a part of our New Testament grace package!  Read 2 Corinthians 2:2-4; Philippians 4:13 & 19


Jesus taught: 

Matthew 5:32 
"
But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the cause of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. 

Mark 10:7-12 
"For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother, [8] AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH; consequently they are no longer two, but one flesh. [9] "What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate." [10] And in the house the disciples began questioning Him about this again. [11] And He said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her; [12] and if she herself divorces her husband and marries another man, she is committing adultery." 

Luke 16:18 
"Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and he who marries one who is divorced from a husband commits adultery." 

 


God's Word also teaches:

Romans 7:3 
"So then if, while her husband lives, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man."

1 Corinthians 7:39
 
"The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord."

Today's theologians are saying, not true!

1 Timothy 6:3-5
"If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness,
[4] he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, [5] useless wrangling of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain.  From such withdraw yourself."

Church member.  You and I heard what the Apostle Paul wrote.
The cost of discipleship and the Christian life is high.

What is our decision?

 

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One Sunday in the Church in Corinth, Greece...it was decision Sunday!

As the Church members in Corinth, gathered to hear what their Pastor was going to read, they heard him read the following.  Try to put yourself in their situation by imagining going to your own church for worship and...when your Pastor stood to preach he said, "members and friends of our Church family, I received the following letter from the Apostle Paul and he asked that I read it to you.  The Apostle Paul wrote the following:

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?  Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, [10]  Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." (1 Corinthians 6: 9, 10)

The Apostle Paul also wrote the following:

"The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord."  (1 Corinthians  7:39)

Could their Pastor's personal message to his congregation and visitors have been similar to the following?

Dear members and friends.  I confess to you that Paul's strong warning to each one of us, "be not deceived," really caught my attention!  Before coming here today, I read this letter from Paul in my home to my wife and family and I couldn't help but wonder, "Is it possible that when I deliver this letter to our Church family and friends on Sunday that there could be someone in the hearing of these words that,

*because they made a public confession for Christ as Saviour on our Church
*and... because they were publicly baptized as a believer
*and... because they are a member of this church in good and regular standing,

some listeners could be deceived concerning their true salvation and relationship in Jesus Christ?

Did they really count the cost of the Christian life before joining our church?  Are they going to demonstrate that they are truly a Born Again Christian by being willing to pay the price expected by our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, concerning their Christian life and discipleship walk of obedience concerning this sin of adultery?

It is no different now, in the 21st. century, than it was when the texts above were penned by the apostle Paul.  When our Lord calls attention to sin in our lives, any and all sin, He expects us to obey by confessing and forsaking that known sin by turning away from and stopping the sin?  To know for sure that we are a truly Born Again Christian, we must be willing to call upon the Lord and trust in His strength to overcome and obey even the most difficult expectations of the Lord?  If we're not willing, are we truly Born Again?  If we're not willing to obey in obedience to the difficult situations, how could we possibly believe that we're willing to die... for our faith in Christ?"

Reader, this isn't works salvation, this is salvation that works.

 
Attention reader!!!

These New Testament letters were not written to Rome, or Corinth, USA!!  When these Jews and Gentiles in Rome, Italy and Corinth, Greece accepted Christ as their Saviour, they had to be prepared to die for their new faith!!!  Countless thousands did!!!  And, in many nations across the globe today, especially in the Muslim and Hindu nations, Christians are still dying!

Don't think like a safe "American" when reading the "Word of God"!!!  Our day is soon coming when being a Christian in America, will not be safe!!

Are you and I prepared and preparing for, those days??!!

The Apostle Paul wrote to us under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit that no adulterer would ever inherit the Kingdom of God.  He also wrote that no divorced person could marry again as long as his or her divorced spouse is still living.  To disobey this "SIMPLE" command (it is only a difficult command if you have disobeyed it) is to:

*disobey the Creator God and determiner of our eternity and,
*marry into an adulterous marriage.

The church members and friends in Corinth that heard that message were required then to answer the same questions that we must answer today  Pastors and readers:

**Will being a confessed believer in Christ as Saviour and a baptized member of any Church, Fundamental, Liberal or any other kind...even though they stand before God and the Church confessing that their marriage is adultery --- alter the fact that their divorced spouse is ... still living?  The divorced spouse is still alive, correct?

**Does being a confessed believer in Christ as Saviour and a baptized member of any Church, Fundamental, Liberal or any other kind...alter the fact that the Word of God calls all such marriages --- adultery?  Because the divorced spouse is still alive, correct?

**Will being a confessed believer in Christ as Saviour and a baptized member of any Church, Fundamental, Liberal or any other kind...even though they stand before God and the Church confessing and agreeing with the Word of God that their marriage is adultery --- alter the fact that DIVORCE is not death?  And, that only death dissolves the "one flesh" relationship and --- only death satisfies the "until death do we part" irrevocable marriage vows?  This doesn't alter the fact that the divorced spouse is still alive, correct?  And, the irrevocable vows were said, correct?

**If the divorced spouse is still living after confessing before God and the Church that you agree with God that a divorced person is not to remarry while their divorced spouse is still ... living ... and God's Word declares those marriages to be adultery and you are in that situation, isn't your marriage an adulterous marriage?

And the Word of God clearly says that "no adulterer will ever inherit the kingdom of God," correct?

*Because some preacher, pastor or friend goes against the clear Word of God and tells you that your marriage "is the exception" to God's rule,  do you --- really --- believe that God doesn't mean  that "you - will not inherit the kingdom of God" ?  Do you really believe that some preacher, pastor or friend knows more than God knows?  And that the warning is for everyone else but you, correct?

*Are you willing to risk your personal eternity  on the word of some preacher, pastor or friend   when the Word of God is so --- very, clear?!

It was decision Sunday in that Church in Corinth and the altar call for them and for you and me - is:

**Are Christians supposed to disobey the Word of God by getting married to another spouse while their divorced spouse is still living?

**Isn't that disobedient marriage, adultery? 

**Are Christians supposed to remain in adultery?  Read Romans chapter 6.  Contextually, it would appear that God was preparing those Church members at Rome for some very hard decision making because chapter 6 is before chapter 7.  Students, because chapter 6... is before ...chapter 7 by overlooking this simple little fact, many Christians, Pastors and Christian leaders have made huge ERRORS in their theology and in their lives.  Notice that Chapter 6 begins with verses:1-2,  "What shall we say then?  Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? [2] God forbid.  How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?"

Chapter 7 is but a continuation of chapter 6 which is a continuation of the opening warnings found in Romans 1:18, "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness" and Romans 1:29-32, "being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, [30] backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, [31] undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; [32]  who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them."

At the top of this page are the reasons given by people just like you and me for their remarriages...against the counsel of their parents, friends, Pastors and the Word of God.  I'm not being harsh or judgmental when I say to you that these reasons are examples of people "who hold the truth in unrighteousness" and are "disobedient to parents, etc." and "who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them."

You know that what I have said on this page is the truth because I've copied the Word of God within the text and context..  The choice is the same for this sin as any other sin and the local Church responsibility is the same concerning this sin as any other sin.  As a father, Pastor, Christian and friend it is my responsibility to tell people to stop their sin, what ever that sin is.  The responsibility is theirs and theirs alone to obey or disobey.  If they make the wrong choice, as a father, Pastor, Christian and friend it is my stewardship ...in obedience to Christ... to take what ever steps are necessary to discipline that brother or sister in Christ and / or distance myself from that brother or sister in the Lord 1 Corinthians 5:11, " But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat."  My obedience is mine and mine alone.  My obedience is not dependent upon an executive committee, a family council, an Elders and Deacons meeting, the decision of a denomination or association of Pastors.  You and I will stand... all alone ...before our Lord and Saviour when we give our personal account.

Our obedience and stewardship is not a
 POPULARITY CONTEST
NOR
IS IT DECIDED BY A COMMITTEE!

**Are adulterous people supposed to remain in the Church membership?  
    Read 1 Corinthians 5:6-13.

**Does the New Testament Church have an Old Testament example for a solution?

Yes!!  Read Ezra chapter 10, all of it.   Please Note:  Ezra is Old Testament and is the harshness of the law.  Under grace, God extends some mercy to us that was not always extended to the Old Testament saints.  Remaining in an adulterous marriage is not a part of the New Testament grace ... package.  It's the high cost of repentance (turning away from) demanded of our discipleship!!   Ministry, strength, courage, life's provisions and Christian creativity - "is" - a part of our New Testament grace package!  Read 2 Corinthians 2:2-4; Philippians 4:13 & 19.


Jesus taught: 

Matthew 5:32 
"
But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the cause of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. 

Mark 10:7-12 
"For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother, [8] AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH; consequently they are no longer two, but one flesh. [9] "What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate." [10] And in the house the disciples began questioning Him about this again. [11] And He said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her; [12] and if she herself divorces her husband and marries another man, she is committing adultery." 

Luke 16:18 
"Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and he who marries one who is divorced from a husband commits adultery." 

 


God's Word also teaches:

Romans 7:3 
"So then if, while her husband lives, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man."

1 Corinthians 7:39
 
"The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord."

Today's theologians are saying, not true!

1 Timothy 6:3-5
"If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness,
[4] he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, [5] useless wrangling of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain.  From such withdraw yourself."

Church member.  You and I heard what the Apostle Paul wrote.
The cost of discipleship and the Christian life is high.

What is our decision?

_____________________________________________________

QUESTION:
What price are you and I willing to pay for our
Christian discipleship and life of obedience?

There is no such thing as easy believism,
painless repentance including ... it's easier to get forgiveness than permission
and
 Low to no spiritual investment with expected high returns.

  It's the high cost of  our discipleship!!

What is our decision?

 

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"Subtle ERRORS causing confusion ... Continued"

2 - B
"THE UNREPENTANT
AND IMMORAL SPOUSE,"

A DEEPLY BURIED FAULT LINE!

Some are teaching that remarriage while the divorced spouse is still living is justified because of an "UNREPENTANT and ADULTEROUS SPOUSE":

Over the past 30 to 40 years some very influential Pastors and Christian radio ministers have been quoting,

Matthew 19:9, " And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery."  [KJV]

Matthew 19:9
, " And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery." [NKJV]

Please notice that the above King James Version and the New King James Version say virtually the same thing.  Now notice the texts that those who support remarriage, use. 

Matthew 19:9, "And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery," [and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery ... is missing in this version]  [NASV]

Matthew 19:9, "I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery."  [Again, and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery ... is missing in this version] [NIV]

Please explain what happened to "and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery" in the New American Standard Version of the Word of God?   Question:  Why do these folks use translations without making any references to the the textual notes for the variant translations that are found in those translations? 


Textual variant notes concerning Matthew 19:9 

Explanation: Textual variant notes are side or foot notes that are added by the translators to clarify and give added substance to a passage or a particular text.  In this case the translators are referencing Matthew 5:32 and are actually saying to the reader, Matthew 19:9 isn't the only verse concerning divorce that Apostle Matthew wrote.

New  American Standard Bible (NASB)

Matthew 5:32

*Or, sends away

+I.e., sexual immorality

**Some early manuscripts read makes her commit adultery.

++Some early manuscripts add and he who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

New King James Bible (NKJV)

*Or fornication

New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)

*Other ancient authorities read except on the ground of unchastity, causes her to commit adultery; others add at the end of the verse and he who marries a divorced woman commits adultery

Living Bible

*"And the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery." This sentence is added in some ancient manuscripts.


New Catholic Edition of the Holy Bible, Douay Version; Confraternity Edition

*1-Ver: 1-9, Divorce is forbidden; cf. Matthew 5, 32...

 

The Protestant Roman Catholic New Testament; Confraternity Version

*[e] Ver. 1-9. divorce is forbidden; cf. Matthew 5:32

Personal note:
I am including the textual notes so that you can understand that I am not on a "Johnny one note" mission to prove a point at any cost, even at the cost of playing mental games with you at the expense of the Word of God.  Those who would have us to believe that Matthew 19:9 is the "proof text" to be used for an "exception clause" are playing a very dangerous game of "Exegetical and Biblical Textual" gymnastics.  They are not only defying the greater volume of Biblical texts, they are also defying over 2,000 years of Church history.

 

Now, compare Matthew 19:9 with all of the following verses.  I am going to say something that really isn't very profound but, yet -- it is very profound.  Matthew 5:32 is written before Matthew 19:9 isn't it?  Matthew chapters 5 through chapter 8 is Christ's "Sermon on the Mount."  Jesus is publicly teaching the multitudes and explaining the "life style" and "cost of discipleship."  Why does Matthew 19:9 say something completely different than Matthew 5:32?  AND -- Why does today's Church use only Matthew 19:9?

Did Jesus make a mistake earlier when He gave His "Sermon on the Mount" as recorded in Matthew 5:32?  And, because He made such a verbal blunder He decided to correct His warning to all mankind in Matthew chapter 9 and verse: 19?  This isn't an unfair question, is it?  And -- if it supposed that He did make a verbal blunder, why didn't He correct all of the following verses?

Isn't it a logical and very Important Question to ask that if Matthew 19:9 is correct...why does this single verse disagree with all of the verses that are recorded in the New Testament that (1) directly quote Jesus Christ while teaching the doctrine of  marriage  and (2)...disagree with all of the verses He taught through the Apostle Paul?

Read them for yourself.  I've printed everyone one of them below.

Matthew 5:32,
"but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the cause of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery."
  Matthew is writing to a Jewish community and is quoting Jesus Christ. Remember the law?  The law commanded that adulterers were to be stoned, Deuteronomy 22:22-24, and not divorced.  There is something going on here that the Lord did not fully explain to us.

This we do know, Jesus said if a man divorced his wife for any reason other than adultery (i.e. she burned his coffee), he is causing his wife to commit adultery. AND even though she was not guilty of the sin of adultery (i.e. she burned his coffee) when her husband divorced her, she will be an adulterer when she remarries.

Mark 10:11-12,
 
"So He said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. [12] And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery.
"  Mark is quoting Jesus Christ and is addressing the Gentile perspective of divorce and remarriage.  Jesus said that whoever divorces his wife, and marries another, commits adultery against her, his new wife.  If we believe that this man is the innocent party, why is his remarriage adultery?  That this is a Gentile perspective is evident in VERSE 12, "And if a woman shall divorce her husband, and be married to another, she committs adultery."  In the Jewish society the wife was considered property. As property she had no right to divorce her husband.  In the Gentile society, a wife divorcing her husband was acceptable. If we believe this woman is the innocent party, why is her remarriage adultery?

Luke 16:18,
 "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced from her husband commits adultery."  Luke is writing to a Greek community and he is quoting our Saviour, Jesus Christ when he writes that the man who divorces his wife and remarries is committing adultery.  Can we assume from the text that the wife whom he divorced is guilty of unrepentant sexual immorality because it is stated that whoever marries her is committing adultery?  If we can assume that he is the innocent party, isn't it amazing that this innocent party is guilty of adultery and, his wife, guilty or otherwise (she burned her husband's coffee), is also guilty of adultery when she remarries?!  Both are guilty of adultery.  Why is this?

Romans 7:2-3,
"For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. [3] So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man."

1 Corinthians 7:39,
"A wife is bound by law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband dies, she is at liberty to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord."

One of the very first principles of hermeneutics [which is the study of how to interpret the Scriptures] that I was taught in Christian College and Seminary is the rule of  "context, context and context" or, "the verse within the text, which is found within the context, which is found within the greater text, the whole of the Word of God."  This universal principle simply means: First, never interpret the meaning of a singular cloudy and obscure verse, so that it disagrees with the meaning of the total text, which is the complete Bible.  Second, never interpret a single verse of Scripture [alone] without considering the immediate text, which are the verses and chapter where that verse is contained.  And third, never interpret a chapter without considering the meaning and flow of the chapters before and after, in which that chapter is written.  Using accepted, sound rules of hermeneutics as the standard, Matthew 19:9 differs from all other verses and can not possibly be considered as the standard by which to judge all other verses in the Word of God so as to determine a doctrine.

Any man who has studied at any Fundamental Christian College or Seminary knows it is a violation of the rules of interpretation and just plain common sense to use a single cloudy or obscure verse of Scripture as the standard by which to interpret the many clear and transparent verses of Scripture.  It's this violation of common sense that creates erroneous doctrinal and polity errors which destroys lives, families and ministries and encourages the cults to thrive.

As well, Matthew 19:9 follows Matthew 19:8 -- doesn't it?  Matthew 19:8, "He said unto them, Moses -- allowed you to put away your wives -- because of the hardness of your hearts:  but from the beginning it was not so." I don't want to take anything away from Moses but -- I certainly am not going to allow Moses to become God, either!  Remember Moses who, in a fit of rage, killed the Egyptian and fled to the desert for 40 years, Exodus chapter 2?  And Moses, the leader who -- in anger -- broke the stone tablets that our Creator God had written on, Exodus chapter 32?  Do you also recall that Mosses the leader wasn't allowed to enter into the promised land because of his sinful temper, Numbers chapter 20?  Jesus Christ made it very clear in Matthew 19:8 that Moses -- and -- Moses alone .............. allowed divorce.  And that Moses didn't have God's .............. permission!  Moses made the decision and allowed divorce without portfolio (without consultation and permission)!!  From a very human and practical point of questioning, why is today's Church so very willing to follow the sinful example set by Moses?

It is very evident from all of the verses found in the New Testament that Matthew 19:9 is a one-and-only cloudy verse and it stands all alone.  Why will Bible scholars who normally will not even consider using a verse with a cloudy and obscure meaning suddenly...violate that principle of sound interpretation and hermeneutics...and build a totally erroneous doctrine.

Risking being accused of being redundant I really am compelled to ask once again:

1- Why do these folks use translations without making any references to the the textual notes  
     for the variant translations that are found in those translations? 

2- Why will Bible scholars who normally will not even consider using a verse with a cloudy and 
     obscure meaning  suddenly...violate that principle of sound interpretation and 
     hermeneutics...and build a totally erroneous doctrine to the exclusion of the greater volume of 
     Biblical texts and in defiance 2,000 years of Church history?

Are our Pastors and Christian leaders doing this for one of the following, deeply buried, spiritual fault lines?

**A number of years ago a Pastor in a neighboring city thought it would be very helpful if my wife and I became members of his ministry and gave him a helping hand.  Before joining his ministry I gave him my "Philosophy of Ministry" manuscript that gives great detail about our convictions concerning divorce and divorce / remarriage.  After several months of helping the ministry by teaching a singles and married couples class, one of the deacons called and asked to meet with me at a restaurant that was convenient to both of us so we could talk.  He started the conversation by telling me that he was divorced and remarried and "he was very sure that my wife and I were not aware of his situation."  He also wanted us to know that at the next annual business meeting, of the five men to be considered for the "Office of Deacon," three were divorced men whose divorced wives were still living and that two of those men would certainly be elected.  The majority of the Deacon's Board would... then be ...divorced and remarried men whose divorced wives were still living.

When I confronted their Pastor, this is what I was told:
"Brother.  When I graduated from Seminary I didn't believe in divorce and remarriage while a divorced spouse was still alive.  In my very first ministry I was confronted with the issue and I had to make a decision.   Because I believed that the Lord had called me to preach and ... because I had a family to feed, I made the decision to preach and feed my family". 

Over the past 35 years, many Pastors have said "to me" ... the following:

**"Brother, if I preached Romans 7:2-4, "For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. [3] So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man. [4] Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another--to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God." And 1 Corinthians 7:39, "A wife is bound by law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband dies, she is at liberty to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord,"  as a hard and fast interpretation, I wouldn't have a church left."

**"When I graduated from Seminary I didn't agree with divorce and remarriage while a divorced spouse was still alive..."but"  the Church that called me had those folks as members."

**"When I graduated from Seminary I didn't agree with divorce and remarriage while a divorced spouse was still alive..."but" all of the other men in my area [conference, denomination, association etc.] are doing it."

**"When I graduated from Seminary I didn't agree with divorce/remarriage while a divorced spouse was still alive..."but" the members of my congregation told me over and over again that Dr. Herb Vanderlugt, Radio Bible Class, Dr. Charles Swindoll and Dr. James Dobson, Focus on the Family all teach that God's mercy and grace covers this."

**A young, struggling Pastor said... "I'm just parroting what the others are saying."

**An Associate Pastor of Christian Education of a large fundamental Baptist Church in Colorado made the following statement to my wife and I after asking me for a concise statement, summing up divorce and remarriage:  "Brother, wouldn't it be nice if we could base our "policies" on the Word of God rather than "convenience?"  Incredibly, realizing and acknowledging this sin, he remained as the Associate Pastor of Christian Education.

*A pastor from Wisconsin wrote, "Brother, I preached the Word of God concerning the permanence and sanctity of marriage.  From the Word of God I explained to my members that the vows "until death do us part" spoken at their weddings when they were married can not be dissolved until death.  I read and preached to them that the "one flesh relationship" created by God in marriage can not be dissolved until the death of a spouse.  Later that week I was called before our denominational regional directors and told that if I didn't reconsider my position concerning this controversial subject ... they would consider the revocation of my "Ordination Certificate" as a Minister of the Word of God and my "Preacher's License".

Please note:  The following reason: "I made the decision to preach and feed my family" is -- BY FAR --.the most used excuse that I have heard from pastors, violating the clear Word of God.

QUESTION:  Are any of the above reasons given to me by pastors, BIBLICAL REASONS?

Is it possible that one of these ministers may have been your very own pastor or the minister who officiated at your wedding.  Tell me, shouldn't all of the listed reasons given for violating their original convictions be considered  as "very serious, deeply buried spiritual fault lines" on which you and others have built their earthly and eternal futures upon?

Tell everyone you know, every place you go that
God's plan for marriage is the one-and-only plan
that He will approve of!!

One man and one woman
for
one lifetime!!

The death of a spouse is His only exception!!

What is our decision?

 

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"Subtle ERRORS causing confusion ... Continued"

2 - C
"THE DESERTION
OF AN UNSAVED SPOUSE"

A DEEPLY BURIED SPIRITUAL FAULT LINE!

Some are teaching that remarriage while the divorced spouse is still living is justified because of "The DESERTION of an UNBELIEVER" and they quote 1 Corinthians 7:15, " But if the unbeliever departs, let him depart; a brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases.  But God has called us to peace."


A word of caution from personal conversations and observation:

My question is, "did you knowingly marry into an unequally yoked [saved / unsaved] marriage?  In other words, did you deliberately marry a mission field?  If you did and your spouse didn't change the way you thought you could change him or her, are you guilty of violating 1 Peter 3:1 & 4, "In the same way, you wives [husbands, my addition], be submissive to your own husbands [wives, my addition] so that even if any of them are disobedient to the word, they may be won without a word by the behavior of their wives [husbands, my addition], [4] but let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the imperishable quality of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is precious in the sight of God."


Folks who are married to unsaved spouses are supposed to "live the word" not preach and harp the word.  Were you guilty of saying things like  "if your were saved you _______________ !!!"  Or, "Because you're not saved you ________________!!!"  


Were you guilty of constantly harping on the fact that they were not saved, wrong and unacceptable because they were not a Christian?  Frankly, if that is true of you, were you guilty of "driving them out of your life and marriage" --  deliberately or otherwise?  In reality your mission in their life to convert them to your ideal mate didn't work according to your plan so you bailed on them by your words and behavior and drove them to the point of saying, "I don't need this and -- if you're a Christian -- I don't want or need Christ either!  I'm out of here!!"  Is that {truthfully now], what happened?


What they did isn't desertion.  It's true that they violated their marriage vows by leaving and divorcing you before death and, what they did isn't acceptable to the Lord.
  Survival, self-preservation, hurt, disillusionment and frustration is probably a far more accurate description of their emotions and actions than desertion.  My honest opinion is that your marriage was born out of deceit with a hidden agenda that failed.  It failed because you tried to play "god" in your spouse's life.  You're not god so you failed -- not your spouse.  You destroyed what ever admiration and love they had for you and your "religion." 

 

1 Corinthians 13:5
[a]
"[love] does not act unbecomingly; 
[b]
[love] it does not seek its own [way],
[c] [
[love] is not provoked,
[e]
[love] does not take into account a wrong suffered."   The Old Testament book of 

Proverbs warns us against such activities with the following words of wisdom  Proverbs 26:27, "He who digs a pit will fall into it, And he who rolls a stone, it will come back on him."

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What does 1 Corinthians chapter seven teach?

First:

The vast majority of these folks were recent converts to Christ from Judaism and other 
heathen religions.

Second:

And, the vast majority of these folks were already married when one spouse or the or the other spouse accepted Christ as Saviour and, for what ever reason, one spouse did not.

 

The following are God's rules, not mine:

 

Rule #1 for the saved spouse:  1 Corinthians 7:12-13

"If their unsaved spouse desired to remain with them, they must not divorce or leave them."

 

Rule #2 for the saved spouse I Corinthians 7:15

"If their unsaved spouse wishes to leave / divorce, let them leave or divorce in 'peace'
 and with 'good will'."


Reasons for Rule #1 and #2
:  1 Corinthians 7:14, 16, 17


A-
"They were to continue to hope that God would lead them to salvation"; 
       (vs:14 & 16)


B-
"God's command". (Vs: 17)  Note: Because of God's Sovereignty [absolute control] and
      Omniscience [all knowing], their marriages and unequally yoked conditions didn't take
      God by surprise.  1 Corinthians 7:7 teaches us that singleness and / or marriage is a

      "gift" from God.  1 Corinthians 7:20 teaches us that singleness and / or marriage is a 
      "Calling" of God.  As such, it was a God ordained happening and mission field for the 
      saved spouses and they were to remain faithful to their gifts and in their callings.


Rule #3 for the divorced / separated saved spouse
:  1 Corinthians 7:39


A-
"They were not to remarry [marry again] until their spouse had died"; 


B-
"If they remarried, they were not to marry into another "unequally yoked" marriage. 
      They were commanded to marry another Born  again Christian". 

 

The sanctity and permanence of marriage isn't "rocket science."  Our English Bibles coupled with just a "little" personal thought are absolutely clear concerning this issue.   To quote Dr. Bob Ketchum, a Bible Scholar and Church planter who has been home with our Lord for a number of years,

"99% of what you and I will ever need to know is right there in the Word of God in plain, easy-to-read -- English.  The other 1% you might find it necessary to pray about -- a little."

Please remember the universal principle of how to correctly interpret the Word of God by using the simple "context, context and context" rule or, "the verse within the text, which is found within the context, which is found within the greater text, which is the whole of the Word of God."  First, look at the "key" words within the verse itself.  In this verse the key words are "unbeliever"; ... "let him depart"; ... "believers not under bondage" ...and, "peace".   The truth of this verse is that marriage, the home and the family isn't to be turned into a "war zone" by an unbeliever or, anyone else.

The Believers in the churches located in Corinth, Rome and in all other cities and villages as well were for the most part, recent converts to Christ and Christianity.  As ... new converts, many of them now had husbands or wives that were not saved.  These new "Christians" hadn't previously married into an "unequally yoked marriage" but rather -- because of their new Faith in Christ Jesus -- their existing marriage coupled with their new faith in Jesus Christ, created an "unequally yoked marriage." Their unsaved spouses were still practicing heathens or still believers in Judaism and didn't want anything to do with Christ and their spouse's new faith walk. 

If this verse had no context and stood all by itself, the meaning will remain:


1 Corinthians 7:15,

"...if the unbelieving partners leave, let them go.  Under these circumstances a Christian man or Christian woman is not bound / enslaved to a war zone of arguing over salvation, Jesus Christ, religious beliefs or any other issue etc.  God has called the Christian spouse to live in peace and good will."

Or again, "If their unsaved spouse wishes to leave / divorce, let them leave or divorce in 'peace' and with 'good will'.  God has called you to live in peace."

 

As an example of just what a Christian spouse can say to their unsaved spouse,

"I understand and am very sorry that you don't want to be a Christian and live a righteous lifestyle or live-with or be-married-to a Christian. I still love you.

May I help you pack your belongings? May I bring you someplace? etc. etc. etc."

 

This is preciously is the meaning of this verse, live in peace, give the unbeliever a reason to reconsider and or, return! 

 

Again, this is a verse that can actually... and ...safely stand alone because of its word structure.  The meaning of this verse is simply that, if a believer is married to an unbeliever who wants to leave or wants a divorce,

don't argue and fight over their desire to leave, let them leave.  You're not obligated (under bondage or a slave) to force them to stay. You are not obligated (under bondage) to them to live in a war zone. God has called you to peace.

 

Warning, Christian: There is no exclusion clause added or suggested within this text and context to suggest that the Believer may marry again because the unbeliever leaves!  Don't allow your fleshly desires or Satan and his friends to deceive you.  Please continue to read this page. (See 1 Corinthians 7:39)

Today, many Born Again Christians deliberately violate the Word of God by dating and marrying the unsaved.  They deliberately date and marry a mission field against the counsel of their parents, family, friends, Pastor and the Word of God.  If that is the case then the old adage, "Son or Daughter, you made your bed and now you can sleep  in it," is your lot in life. You deserve it!  You wanted a mission field now be faithful to your mission.  Other missionaries across the globe are!

If your unbelieving spouse wants to divorce because of your faith in Christ and...because of your Christian life, let them get the divorce Not you!  In fact, it would be wise to say something like, "Honey, if you really want a divorce, you'll have to initiate it.  I do not want a divorce because I love the Lord and I love you. If you insist,  I love you enough to help you pack.  Is there some place you would like me to bring you?  or, is there someone you want me to call for you?"  Why can I say this?  I say this because of the context of the whole passage.  Read verses:13-14:

1 Corinthians 7:13-14, " And a woman who has a husband who does not believe, if he is willing to live with her, let her not divorce him. [14] For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband; otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy."

The  verses immediately before  verse 15  demonstrates God's concern is for the salvation of the unsaved spouse, and the Holiness and welfare of the children.  AND, the verse  immediately following verse 15 again demonstrates God's concern is for the salvation of the unsaved spouse:

1 Corinthians 7:16, "For how do you know, O wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, O husband, whether you will save your wife?"

Important note: this verse is very important to the contextual understanding of "let them leave...you are not bound..." verse 15 instructs believers to "peacefully let the husband / wife leave and pursue and live peacefully. Verse 16 is the "why should I "peacefully let the husband / wife leave and pursue and live peacefully?" you may be setting the example of Christ-likeness that is necessary to - now notice this because this is the key - save your husband / save your wife. The natural progression for verse 16 is to assume that the unbelieving spouse is gone (verse 15), i.e. Separated or divorced yet your lord and mine instructs us that the separated or divorced, un-believing husband / wife remain our husband / wife even though --- they are gone by separation or divorce!

This is supported by:
Malachi 2:14, (God said) '"Yet you say, 'For what reason?' Because the Lord has been witness between you and the wife of your youth, with whom you have dealt treacherously (divorced is the meaning, added); Yet she is your companion and your wife by covenant.'"

This understanding is shored up by the following verses:

Wives: 1 Peter 3:1, " Wives, likewise, be submissive to your own husbands, that even if some do not obey the word, they, without a word, may be won by the conduct [Godly lifestyle...added] of their wives."

Husbands and wives: Hebrews 12:14-15, " Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:  [15] looking carefully lest anyone fall short of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up cause trouble, and by this many become defiled;"

On the other hand, if your mission field / spouse is "criminally...mentally and / or physically abusive" of you or your children (this isn't the excuse, "I don't love him any more" etc.), God has given Romans 13:1-4 to you and me:

Romans 13:1-4, " Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. [2]  Whosoever therefore resists the power, resists the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. [3]  For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Will you then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and you shall have praise of the same: [4] For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if you do that which is evil, be afraid; for he bears not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that does evil."

If your sanity and safety is in jeopardy because your spouse is threatening and carrying out harmful and violent activities, call the police and have that spouse legally removed from the home.  Get a legal restraining order or an order for separate maintenance from the judge.  These actions taken by a Christian are not against the Word of God but getting a divorce for these reasons certainly are.

Remember: A divorce is only for the reason of "unrepentant, sexual immorality."  Not for any other reason.  Period.

Finally, consider the whole context of 1 Corinthians chapter 7. (Whole context meaning the entire chapter)

Chapter 7 begins with:

1 Corinthians 7:1-2, "Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. [2] Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband."

Primary reason for this verse:

For the singles, widows and widowers, if they are inclined and driven to sexual activity, don't sexually violate another person, get married.  1 Corinthians 7:8-9, "I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. [9] But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn." 

Secondary reason for this verse:

For the married man and woman, you are one flesh with your own wife or husband.  Don't enter into an adulterous relationship by having sex with someone other than the spouse of your original vows.

Chapter 7 closes with:

Corinthians 7:39, "A wife is bound as long as her husband lives; but if her husband is dead, she is free to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord."

Bound in this verse is the Greek word deo, (the word found is used by all of the major translations)

Greek deo / bound, Greek 1210, Strong's Concordance & Dictionary
deo, deh'-o; a primary verb; to bind (in various applications, literal or figurative) :- bind, be in bonds, knit, tie, wind. See also Greek 1163 (dei), Greek 1189 (deomai).

as in bind / nit into "one flesh" until death do us part and note that the verse doesn't say... bound as long as her husband stays.
No, our Lord instructs us... bound as long as her husband lives! There is no exclusion clause added or suggested within this text and context.

Primary reason for verse:39

Don't even think about getting married until your spouse dies.

Secondary reason for verse:39

After your spouse dies, you can remarry with only one restriction, "you must marry a born again Christian".

CONCLUSION of "The DESERTION of an UNBELIEVER"

Contextually, 1 Corinthians 7:15, " But if the unbeliever departs, let him depart; a brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases.  But God has called us to peace," can not possibly be an escape clause for the divorced who's unbelieving divorced spouses are still living.

CONCLUSION to the reasons that have caused confusion over the past  30 to 40 years:

(1) It is never acceptable to remarry when the divorced spouse is still living.

(2) There are no NEW TESTAMENT exclusions allowing remarriage when a divorced 
      spouse is still living!

*Salvation followed the divorce and remarriage IS NOT a New Testament exclusion!

*The divorce happened because of an immoral and unrepentant partner IS NOT a New Testament exclusion!!

*The unbeliever deserted the marriage IS NOT a New Testament exclusion!! 

(3) Remarriage following a divorce while the divorced spouse is living is always...adultery.


Jesus taught: 

Matthew 5:32 
"
But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the cause of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. 

Mark 10:7-12 
"For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother, [8] AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH; consequently they are no longer two, but one flesh. [9] "What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate." [10] And in the house the disciples began questioning Him about this again. [11] And He said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her; [12] and if she herself divorces her husband and marries another man, she is committing adultery." 

Luke 16:18 
"Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and he who marries one who is divorced from a husband commits adultery." 

 


God's Word also teaches:

Romans 7:3 
"So then if, while her husband lives, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man."

1 Corinthians 7:39
 
"The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord."

Today's theologians are saying, not true!

1 Timothy 6:3-5
"If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness,
[4] he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, [5] useless wrangling of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain.  From such withdraw yourself."

Church member.  You and I heard what the Apostle Paul wrote.
The cost of discipleship and the Christian life is high.

What is our decision?

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QUESTION:
What price are you and I willing to pay for our
Christian discipleship and life of obedience?

There is no such thing as easy believism,
painless repentance including ... it's easier to get forgiveness than permission
and
 Low to no spiritual investment with expected high returns.

  It's the high cost of  our discipleship!!

What is our decision?

  

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there are FOUR (4)  MAJOR OVERLOOKED ISSUES

3 - A

The Word of God concerning
"the"...
"REMARRIAGE"
following a divorce

NO Spiritual fault lines!

The #1, OVERLOOKED ISSUE(A) The Word of God:

*God is very clear about divorce:

Malachi 2:16, "I hate divorce."  God does not hate the person because He, God... is a divorced man.  See Jeremiah 3:8.

*God never intended for people to divorce.

Matthew 19:8, "He said to them, "Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so."

Hebrews 12:14-15, "Follow peace (not divorce) with all men (this includes your spouse), and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: [15] Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled."

*Jesus Christ taught that divorce is only for open and unrepentant sexual immorality.

Matthew 5:32, "but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the cause of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery."

*If a divorced couple should desire to reconcile and remarry, having never married
  another, after their divorce, that would be the Lord's expressed desire.

1 Corinthians 7:11, "But even if she does depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband is not to divorce his wife."

*Should a spouse die, the living person is free to remarry.

Romans 7:3,  "So then if, while her husband lives, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man."

1 Corinthians 7:39,  "The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord."

*If either has married someone else while separated from their original spouse, even 
  though they desire to remarry each other, they may not.

Deuteronomy 24:4, "Then her former husband who divorced her must not take her back to be his wife after she has been defiled; for that is an abomination before the Lord, and you shall not bring sin on the land which the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance."

Jeremiah 3:1a, "They say, if a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again?  Shall not that land be greatly polluted?"

*Whenever marriage to another person occurs while a divorced spouse is still alive, the
  Word of God calls it adultery.

Romans 7:1-4, "Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he lives? [2] For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he lives; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. [3] So then if, while her husband lives, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. [4] Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to Him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God."

Mark 10:7-12, "For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, [8] and the two shall become one flesh; so then they are no longer two, but one flesh. [9] Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate." [10] In the house His disciples also asked Him again about the same matter. [11] So He said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. [12] And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery."

Luke 16:18"Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced from her husband commits adultery."

Note:  Be sure to pay close attention to the following verse folks.   It isn't an "escape clause" BUT it is a "cause and effect" clause.  Christ sounds a clear warning    coupled  with condemnation, guilt and fault.

Matthew 5:32, "but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the cause of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery."

It should be obvious from the number of verses found in the Word of God that the issue that has God's condemnation is the remarriage that follows a divorce, while the divorced spouse is still living.  

The only time that the "divorce" is an issue is when there is a divorce for some other reason than unrepentant, sexual immorality i.e. "I knew that I didn't love my spouse when we got married;"  Or, "My spouse was a lazy drunk;"  Or, "My spouse was abusive;"  Or, "Irreconcilable  differences (how can truly Born again Christians ever say this?  Impossible!);"  Etc.  None of these reasons for divorce are Biblical reasons and none of these reasons have God's blessings.  As with any and all other sins, it must be confessed and repented of.

Psalm 119:11
"Your Word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against You."

Psalm 119:89
"For ever, O Lord, Your Word is settled in Heaven."

Psalm 119:102
"I have not departed from Your judgments: for You have taught me."

John 17:17
"Sanctify them through Your truth: Your Word is truth."

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IRREVOCABLE LAW OF ONE FLESH   
A clearly visible spiritual fault line!

"Confession" is not "repentance" and "divorce" is not "death"

The #2, OVERLOOKED ISSUE(B) The "One flesh relationship" issue.

Genesis 2:24, "Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."

Matthew 19:5-6, "and said, 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'? [6] So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate'."

Mark 10:8, "and the two shall become one flesh'; so then they are no longer two, but one flesh."

Ephesians 5:31, "For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh."

Romans 7:3 and 1 Corinthians 7:39 both conclude that only death dissolves the one flesh issue of marriage.  Therefore, the one flesh issue doesn't dissolve simply because of a "writ of divorcement."

Romans 7:3, "So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man."

Please note: Our Lord, using Paul as His secretary / writer didn't call her first husband her "ex-husband" or "divorced" husband.  He is called her husband.  Some may want to down play or even dismiss this fact.  The Author, Jesus Christ, didn't down play or dismiss it. 

1 Corinthians 7:39, "A wife is bound by law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband dies, she is at liberty to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord."

Again, please take note:  This is New Testament Scripture and not the Old Testament.  I hear all the time that we're not under the law.  Both Romans 7:3 and 1 Corinthians 7:39 are New Testament Scriptures having been written after our Lord's ascension into Heaven and to the New Testament Churches.  Each refers to a binding "law".  Matthew 5:18 isn't Old Testament either and yet our Lord said "that not one jot nor tittle will pass (away) from the law until it is totally fulfilled."  What law is invoked here?  The law of one flesh that was established in Genesis 2:24 and Matthew 19:6-8.  There is another New Testament law that is also involved here,1 John 2:4, "'The one who says, 'I have come to know Him,' and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.'"  Jesus Christ is the Creator God, the only Author and Architect of all Scripture, Old Testament and New Testament.  Be very careful of picking and choosing Scripture based upon "that's Old Testament" or "that's New Testament." 

Jesus Christ answered the question of divorce with:

Matthew 19:6, 8 "And He answered and said unto them, 'Wherefore they are no more two, but one flesh.  What therefore God has  joined together, let not man put asunder.'" [8] "He said unto them, 'Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts suffered  [means to permit...  added] you to put away your wives: but from the beginning of creation...[I added] it was not so.'" 

IMPORTANT NOTE: I had a pastor tell me that God / Jesus Christ gave Moses permission and / or approval to grant divorce therefore, divorce and remarriage was permissible.  For your Spiritual safety and eternality, I'm going on record to say to you that the above verses, Matthew 19:6 and 8  do not even come close to even suggest that Christ was in agreement in the slightest way with Moses decision!  One more time and for the record:

"Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts suffered / permitted you..."  

And, God / Jesus Christ hates divorce
    Malachi 2:16 
    
"For the Lord God of Israel says That He hates divorce,
       For it covers one's garment with violence
," Says the Lord
       of hosts.  "Therefore take heed to your spirit, That you do
       not deal treacherously
."
And, the disciples understood exactly what my Saviour and your Creator God meant!  Listen to their ... words [in four Bible versions] as they counted the personal cost of marriage:

Matthew 19:10, "His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry."  [KJV] 

Matthew 19:10, "His disciples said to Him, "If such is the case of the man with his wife, it is better not to marry."  [NKJV]

Matthew 19:10, "The disciples said to Him, "If the relationship of the man with his wife is like this, it is better not to marry."  [NASV]

Matthew 19:10,  "Jesus' disciples then said to him, 'If that is how it is, it is better not to marry!'"  [The Living Translation]

Matthew 19:10, "The disciples said to him, "If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry."  [NIV]

Was remarriage a controversial subject to the disciples?  No!  Not at all!!!  It wasn't controversial then and, the Word of God isn't controversial now!!!  They understood that if they married and their marriage didn't work out and a divorce took place, they could never marry again.  Certainly, not until the death of their divorced spouse.  And, ladies and men, don't forget that they were men and they also -- had needs.  Because we have never -- up close and personally -- met the Disciples, it's easy to forget that they were just as human as you and me.

The Disciples understood what Christ said and...Pastors know that adultery is a physical act:

1 Corinthians 6:18, "Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body." [KJV]

What is the meaning of fornication?  The Greek word is porneia on which our English words porno and pornography are derived.  Fornication includes adultery, incest and fornication.

1 Corinthians 6:18, "Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body."  [KJV]

1 Corinthians 6:18,  "Flee immorality. Every other sin that a man commits is outside the body, but the immoral man sins against his own body."  [NASV]

1 Corinthians 6:18,  "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he  who sins sexually sins against his own body."  [NIV]

1 Corinthians 6:18,  "Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body."  [NKJV]

1 Corinthians 6:18,  "Shun fornication!  Every sin that a person commits is outside the body; but the fornicator sins against the body itself."  [NRSV]

1 Corinthians 6:18,  "That is why I say to run from sex sin.  No other sin affects the body as this one does.  When you sin this sin it is against your own body."  [Living Word]

Why can I say so emphatically that Pastors know that adultery is a physical act?!

When it comes to the attention of the Pastor that a member of his congregation is having an adulterous affair, what does that  Pastor and his Board do?  They contact that member and tell them to stop the affair or else _______________ .  What exactly...is that adulterous member to stop doing?  Stop having "sex" with someone.  Immorality, fornication and adultery are all "sexual sins that happen to-and-in, the body."  Some examples, a business man having sex with his secretary; a salesman having sex with another woman; a Pastor having sex with the organist; a teacher having sex with a student, etc.  It is adultery, fornication and immorality because they are engaged in the "activity of sex with each other's bodies."  That act of sex... is ...adultery.  Pastors, board members, husbands, wives, children and all thinking adults of the congregation insist that sexual adultery must be stopped because it is called A D U L T E R Y,  Correct?  And, we can not have adulterers in the Church membership.

God's letter to the Church Members in Rome informed all of the divorced and remarried members who had a living divorced spouse that they were adulterers, living in adultery, Romans 7:2-3, "For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he lives; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.[3] So then if, while her husband lives, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man." 

 Isn't a "Church Member" an individual that has: 
         
**1) publicly confessed Jesus Christ as their personal Saviour;
        **2) been publicly baptized as a "Born Again" believer;
        **3) been welcomed into the fellowship / membership?
Adultery is sin, correct?
I have been told over and over again that God's grace covers this sin because 1 Corinthians 6:11 declares that the these folks are ".... washed, sanctified and justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God".  If this is what you have been told and you believe this is the truth, you need to revisit this Scripture within it's context  (1 Corinthians 6: 9-11 and 1 Corinthians 7:39) because the letters to the Corinthians were letters that were written to the members of Churches / Church Family Members.  Even though 1st and 2nd Corinthians were written to Born Again, baptized Believer's who were then welcomed into the fellowship, they were told that certain "lifestyle" sinners were not going to inherit the Kingdom of God

[9] "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?  Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, [10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. [11] And such were some of you but you are washed, but you are sanctified, but you are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. [7:39] A wife is bound by law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband dies, she is at liberty to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord." 

Because it is written, "such were some of you," is a clear indication that the Apostle Paul was aware that there were some Corinthian members in the hearing of that letter who had not repented of these sins and "were yet living in" those sins and he was warning them to repent / stop / cease / get out of those sins.  One year ( +/-) later the Apostle Paul makes it absolutely clear that is exactly what he meant when he addresses the same sin issues again with emphasis and a threat 2 Corinthians 12:21, 

"lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and I shall mourn for many who have sinned before and have not repented of the uncleanness, fornication, and lewdness which they have practiced." 

{English word "Fornication" from the Greek  "Porneia" is the word used to include all sexual sins i.e. fornication, incest, adultery and etc.}

Isn't the Apostle Paul asking the same question that I'm asking you, "Why are these folks still members of the Churches in Corinthians?  He had already warned these folks in his first letter to them a year ago!

We are in the 21st century, almost 2,000 years later, and we're still disobeying our Lord by allowing the remarried adulterer into Church Family membership.  Who on this earth was Jesus Christ referring to when He said the following,  "Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'  And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!' [Matthew 7:22-23]  Many of you have said to me, "We're not under law!"  I suggest that you reconsider what you're not under because I didn't author the Scriptures, Jesus Christ is the author and He said "you who practice lawlessness!" 

Many declare that the divorced and remarried members of the Church in Rome and in the membership of your assembly who are living in divorce & remarried adultery, were forgiven of their sin and can remain in that sinful relationship because 1 Corinthians 6:11 teaches that they were washed, sanctified and justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.  One verse taken out of context within this very text of verses even though it follows two verses that strongly teach the contrary.  QUESTION: If adulterers are in the same list of folks found in verses 9 and 10 that include nine other lifestyle sinners that must stop their sinfulness -- does it really seem logical that these are the only lifestyle sinners that do not have to stop committing and living in their sin?  

Folks, this isn't a new problem.  Our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, used the Apostle Paul to confront this very issue 2,000 years ago.  Paul was lead of the Lord to write the following warning to the same Churches in Corinth in 56 AD concerning the unrepentant, "Church member" adulterers:      

Because confession is not repentance and divorce is not death, please read the following:

1 Corinthians 6:9 "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?  Be not deceived, neither
1-fornicators,
(Fornicators must stop their sin for membership and leadership.  Who is a fornicator?  These are folks that the world and Christians would term as "shacked up" or living together and having regular sex without being married.  Some fornicators are individuals who are known to be "regularly" sleeping around with many others.  A fornicator can also be an individual who is dating or engaged to a single individual and they are known to be having sex.  These individuals must stop their sin to become a Church member or leader.)

2- nor idolaters, (Idolaters must stop their sin for membership and leadership.  Who is "commonly" termed an idolater?  Any person who has a statute of a god, a person, an individual that some religious body has distinguished as a "saint" and they bow down to or pray "to" or pray "in" that god's, person's or saint's name and believe that they actually hear, help or intercede for them in some manner.  These individuals must stop their sin for membership and leadership.)

3- nor adulterers (Is the 21st century church attempting to CHANGE the Word of God and say to you and me that only some adulterers will not see the Kingdom of God but not all adulterers?  It is clearly evident by the overwhelming "PRACTICE" of our 21st century church leadership and membership that they are absolutely teaching that it is no longer all adulterers who will not inherit the Kingdom of God but only some adulterers.  Also, only some designated adulterers can be members and leaders of their church where as other adulterers can only be members; interesting.)  Please see the notes below.  

Definition of adulterer:
Noun, a person who has committed adultery
An adulterer is any individual who is married and having sex with someone other than their spouse.  That individual is an adulterer.

Until the last 30 +/- years and with only a few exceptions, everyone knew and accepted that adultery is in violation of (1) the Word of God, (2) a violation of irrevocable vows to God and (3) a violation of the irrevocable one flesh until death relationshipThis irrevocable relationship is the key doctrine that many today wish to overlook and / or annul.  Also, until the last 30 +/- years, there was only one kind of adulterer.  Adulterers were the sinful individuals called adulterers by our Lord in His Word: Matthew 5:32, Mark 10: 7-12, Luke 16:18, **Romans 7:2-3, **1 Corinthians 7:39,  Revelation 21:8 and  Revelation 22:15. (** key verses)

By "membership PRACTICE", our 21st century church has created two (2) categories of adulterers:

Category #1- The sinful and "unsaved adulterers" are called adulterers by our Lord in His Word, Matthew 5:32,  Mark 10: 7-12,  Luke 16:18,  **Romans 7:2-3, **1 Corinthians 7:39, Revelation 21:8 and  Revelation 22:15.(** key verses)

Definition according to membership practice:
The
sinful and unsaved adulterers are individuals who haven't joined a local church and agreed with them (confessed) that their remarriage is a sin.

Category #2- The sinful but saved "Christian adulterers" are also called adulterers by our Lord in His Word, Matthew 5:32,  Mark 10: 7-12,  Luke 16:18, **Romans 7:2-3, **1 Corinthians 7:39,  Revelation 21:8 and  Revelation 22:15. (** key verses)

Definition according to membership practice:
The sinful but saved Christian adulterers are
individuals who have joined a church after confessing to a Pastor and membership that their remarriage
"was" a sin (at the time of their remarriage) and not "is" presently a sin (Romans 7:2-3).

Problem:
The Word of God is absolutely clear that no Born Again Christian  can or will remain in any sinful lifestyle.

Romans 6:1-2, "What shall we say then?  Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? [2] God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? [KJV]

Ephesians 5:5
, "For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God." [NKJV]

Romans 6:1-2
, "What shall we say then?  Are we to continue in sin that grace might increase? [2] May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it?" [NASV]

OUR 21st CENTURY FUNDAMENTAL CHURCH PRACTICE OF THE "ABSOLUTION" OF A "PARTICULAR" SIN:
Because confession is not repentance and divorce is not death, it is my conviction that our Fundamental Pastors and their membership who forgive the divorced and remarried folks simply because they